[US] "Extended Belts" (Sherman Upgrade)

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[Hicks58]

@Hicks: I know we've talked about this before, but I still think you put way too little value on overall splash radius. There is A LOT more to tanks than instagibbing, hence why people tend to buy MG upgrades. The outer radius of the splash is still doing half of a Volksgrenadier's health, and one third of a Grenadier's health. Having twice the radius makes it much easier to hit the full squad, and there IS a noticeable difference in AI capability when your shots are doing an extra 60-120 damage to the squad as a whole.

I would rather have .25/1/3 than .5/1/1.5. Even though the full damage radius of the splash is doubled in the latter, that's already such a tiny little radius that it's not really going to hit any extra infantry unless they're all bunched up in one spot.

Some people like Grenadiers, some people like Volks. Personally, I'm a guy that likes concentration over distribution. Distribution allows pot shots at range to be more effective where enemy squads are more likely to be spread out. Concentration allows you to get in close, use herding tactics, and gib half a squad that you've clumped together by pushing them around.

Oh, and in relation to the IST talk, they also tend to get fewer kills due to their psychological effect too. People see a Sherman and think where did I leave my AT? People see an IST approaching their inf and think OH SHI-. They'll be much more inclined to stay the hell away from the IST knowing what it can do when it opens fire.

[Tymathee]

double lmg upgrade, no, single? sure why not but tbh...i dont think the m1919 lmg is any better than the .50 cal on a sherman anyway so why would you want to replace it?

[TheVolskinator]

double LMG and the .50 cal, for a higher price then just a .50 cal.

[smurfORnot]

while we are at it,can I get ostwind gun on KT instead of LMG? in the end it is KT!

[Tymathee]

double LMG and the .50 cal, for a higher price then just a .50 cal.

it's not a good idea.

[Mister Schmidt]

just lol

[AmPM]

while we are at it,can I get ostwind gun on KT instead of LMG? in the end it is KT!

Wrong, KT should have full in HMG42's for the Turret and Hull gun.

[Spartan_Marine88]

Wrong, KT should have full in HMG42's for the Turret and Hull gun.

With focus fire

[Mysthalin]

"hey guys, let's take the quad and remove it's only weakness which is poor health, and add an anti-vehicle gun to boot. For strategic.. sheep... purposes".

[AmPM]

With focus fire

That also affects the main gun!! 300% accuracy 4tW

[3rdCondor]

"hey guys, let's take the quad and remove it's only weakness which is poor health, and add an anti-vehicle gun to boot. For strategic.. sheep... purposes".

How about we have a Pershing with 4 quads attached to it via unbreakable chains. The quads would each have a squad of zooks garrisoned inside, and the pershing would have a calliope rack atop its chassis.

[Tymathee]

i think he gets it...

tbh volksy if u want realistic sherman hmg, play botb or blitzkrieg, the hmgs rape infantry

[smurfORnot]

With focus fire

and AP rounds

[Spartan_Marine88]

That also affects the main gun!! 300% accuracy 4tW

And flank speed that gives it scout car overdrive speed. That way we can also give a doctrine buff to make it passive in enemy territory.

[kwiatekkek]

now thede are so wicked  ideas , keep em  comin lads

[smurfORnot]

+add him croc flamer,just for a cool factor!
maybe smoke launchers,which have effect of cct smoke 

[Contaminator]

Then take the sherman crap flail but put it on front back and sides. Then make a doctrine upgrade called "titanium tips" and they flail is then able to butt hump vehicles and puncture through armour and does extra damage vs. all heavy Tanks.

[AmPM]

On a moar serious note, P4 upgun, gets a STuG main gun with 45 range =)

[AmPM]

Then take the sherman crap flail but put it on front back and sides. Then make a doctrine upgrade called "titanium tips" and they flail is then able to butt hump vehicles and puncture through armour and does extra damage vs. all heavy Tanks.

On the downside, it moves in random directions only because the flails pull it around =)

[TheVolskinator]

Went into Cheatmod to try this out; no its not exact.

Spawned a brit trench, threw 2 one-man-riflemen medic squads with an LMG42 each into it, spawned a sherman, upgraded a .50cal on it and drove it right on top of the trench so all the weapon hardpoints would be at roughly the same distance from anything they were shooting at. Its nowhere near a quad.

It really is dissapointing to see everyone pointing and laughing about how retarded the idea is, when nobody has(d) a damn clue how truly good or bad this would be in the field. Once one of you goons decides its not worth discussing seriously, the idea is as good as bupkis when everyone considers it royally OP.

Myst, you of all people should know that this is far from strapping a quad on a sherman. I mean christ, it doesnt have 45 range (cheif advantage of the quad) and it wont LOLSUPPRESS whatever it shoots at. Anyone one of you can go try the above scenario in cheatmod vs. the Normal AI (turned off, ofc) and you'd see how far from glaringly OP this is. Christ.