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Author Topic: Why EIR Admins make Op german?  (Read 17331 times)
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NightRain Offline
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« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2012, 03:16:13 pm »

Stugs annoying its not hard to kill. just those pesky flies that insta pin your stuff and run over them to annoy you other then that best shot blockers ever

Only 400 health, but has the best armor from Axis mediums and the best axis MG on the roof which is roflpwner 2000
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« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2012, 03:20:56 pm »

Axis = higher risk/higher reward tanks

allied = numbers

it works out

here's the thing though. axis have abilities that can really negate the allies advantage. Watching 3 m-10's get reduced to half or 1/4'th health cuz of one henchel is insane. Where's that for allies?

the fact is, the faction with the strongest tanks also have the best tank hunting or killing resources.
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« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2012, 03:29:29 pm »

here's the thing though. axis have abilities that can really negate the allies advantage. Watching 3 m-10's get reduced to half or 1/4'th health cuz of one henchel is insane. Where's that for allies?

the fact is, the faction with the strongest tanks also have the best tank hunting or killing resources.

Bombing run, insta kill a tank short of KT/Jadg. Firefly, M10, M18 all better TDs. 57mm is also better in most cases. Socks are huge for keeping the rush away. PIATS are amazing. Allies are perfectly capable of fucking up Axis.
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« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2012, 03:32:32 pm »

didn't say they weren't but the thing is the allies have much smaller room for error because of lower armor.

I miss the days when heavies were rare and there were more medium tanks on both sides.

All you see nowadays are panthers and tigers, it's a surprise if you see axis with anything else.

Allies genearlly roll with tank hunters because of it.

Interesting thought though, are there less mediums because of the two new factions more than anything else?

i think it may be. you have 2 basically mobile atg's on pe, piats and cloaked 6pdrs for brits. FF's lulz at panzers and stugs. So you go with heavier or faster stuff.
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« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2012, 03:33:35 pm »

didn't say they weren't but the thing is the allies have much smaller room for error because of lower armor.

but they have greater numbers so then they have more room for error

lose a p4 fuck

lose a m4, well call out another
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« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2012, 03:37:36 pm »

I know I rarely use medium armor because AT is so common. Raise the cost of AT and TDs as well as heavy armor.

Problem solved. But why should I use a P4 when it loses to a Sherman, ATG crawl, M10 or M18? It's good vs infantry but so is Tiger or HMG.
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« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2012, 03:50:01 pm »

Why use a Sherman either?

The problem is, what alternative do the allies have? Their tanks die to everything the axis has, even it's mainline squads (there are a LOT of shrecks out there...). PaK creep or Marder creep can screw up any allie tank, but that's theory crafting. What was said is true; the faction with the BEST tanks also has the BEST means of killing tanks.

AM, you commented on the bombing run.
Does a bombing run fire as soon as it's on the map?
Does a bombing run gib tanks even if you drive away?
Does a bombing run gib tanks before a player can react, even if he moves instantly?
Does a bombing run fly back 5-6 times and roflpwn anything that's left?
Does a bombing run herpaderp random shoot with a secondary cannon and LOLsnipe (cloaked) snipers, atgs, rifles, howies, or anything else in it's path?

Allied offmaps...I see the Axis ones so much more often. Zap howie, mortar crawl is now imba effective. Use a sniper, storms, or a bikerush to drop an offmap on it. Allies...sacrifice a sniper that you probably shouldn't, or a jeeprush that'l scarcely make it into enemy territory before getting the crap beat out of it.

A P4, Panther, or Tiger can bull it's way through an ATG wall, kill a howitzer, and assuming the user isnt stupid, usually gets away. An allied rush on a hummel or nebel will get zapped long before it gets there. It might not even finish killing the target before it dies horribly.

Howitzer doesn't even grant green cover, a bike can kill the crew before the zook squad jumbing on the fucking driver's head manages to get a zook off and kill it. The nearest counterpart, the 88 with arty, can eat several arty shells in the face and the crew just pops a medkit and naps off.

Doctrine buffs included, what's scarier? An incendiary shell hummel or an L&L howie? Hell, the hummel can even zap tanks if they dont manage to escape the burn zone. Need I compare more stuff?
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« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2012, 04:18:13 pm »

but they have greater numbers so then they have more room for error

lose a p4 fuck

lose a m4, well call out another

This makes me chuckle after looking at the unit prices.
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« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2012, 04:20:32 pm »

axis is up
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« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2012, 06:41:07 pm »

Honestly certain doctrines are good and others just suck for both sides. Also to many stat changes and shitty balancing goes on in secret.

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« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2012, 07:16:28 pm »

Volks, I think most of your issues come from sucking at EIR.
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« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2012, 08:13:37 pm »

Go play europe escalation.

Allied ofmaps deal with ai where axis do mOre at.
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« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2012, 08:19:23 pm »

axis is up


You're such a troll. I do have to give you points though because you're one of the few brothas who enjoys playing defensive WM.
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« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2012, 08:55:13 pm »

WM defensive is the best. i love watching officer supervise paks with 6 inf kills and the liege.
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« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2012, 11:38:46 pm »

No one fields Medium armor on axis because they are outright shit. They can't put up a fight versus the ammount of TD and AT that is fielded these days and therefore are replaced by heavy counterparts because they can soak up a little damage and pounce more often than a silly P4.

What AmPm said, if all general AT would go up along with heavies it'd make the mediums more appealing. Currently having 5 P4s is like playing to lose.
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« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2012, 12:14:41 am »

Pz4 is like croc without buffs. Hide behind buildings and hope to jump on that lonely inf squad..........
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« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2012, 12:20:19 am »

Pz4 is like croc without buffs. Hide behind buildings and hope to jump on that lonely inf squad..........

With no sticky or other form of at...
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chefarzt Offline
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« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2012, 12:24:06 am »

Sad but true. As long as u have a p4 on field ure basicly on defense
12 pop for a slow killing slightly beefier ostwind
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« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2012, 03:01:19 am »

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Watching 3 m-10's get reduced to half or 1/4'th health cuz of one henchel is insane. Where's that for allies?

and then Tym drops from game...lol
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« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2012, 06:06:02 am »

Volks, I think most of your issues come from sucking at EIR.

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