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[Spartan_Marine88]

allies genearlly have fast, long range (45) tank destroyers but are generally weak armored tanks (including Firefly)

when you see a firefly bounce p4 shells, you realize its not that weak

[Tymathee]

when you see a firefly bounce p4 shells, you realize its not that weak

lol i've seen Shermans bounce Tiger shells. its rare but it happens.

and yeah its weak armored it's a sherman with less health.

[AmPM]

So it's tougher than a STuG which you call a "Heavy TD" in your above post?

Allies have tons of armored units. PE TD's are their equivalent of an ATG. Stop being fucking retarded.

Add in another couple versions of the P4, and a P3 variant for Wehr, so we can all have good light tanks.

Also Tym, if you can't kill Marders/50mm/Nashorn/GWagons, you suck, get some fucking 57's.

[Spartan_Marine88]

Also Tym, if you can't kill Marders/50mm/Nashorn/GWagons, you suck, get some fucking 57's.

or if for some reason your lacking, poke out a rifle man wait for above unit to be fired upon rush in m10/m18/sherman and profit (you will most likely take a hit but you got a good chance to kill the marder)

And don't theory craft, if it has back up so do you. If they have 25 pop of units you got 25 pop of units

[Tymathee]

*ignores ampm's post completely because as usual it's probably sprewing some negative venom as he has no idea how to conduct any type of conversation where he doesn't call someone a name or be a complete dick*

[deadbolt]

inb4 'guise y u no use rifles -> 57 -> m10s?'

[AmPM]

*ignores ampm's post completely because as usual it's probably sprewing some negative venom as he has no idea how to conduct any type of conversation where he doesn't call someone a name or be a complete dick*

AKA, I read it and responded to it, being the opposite of ignoring.

[NightRain]

inb4 'guise y u no use rifles -> 57 -> m10s?'

guyse y u no use rifles + 57 + m10s? that is all you ever need

[Spartan_Marine88]

because after a while boredom sets in

[smurfORnot]

firefly bounces g-wagon shot,sherman too,nod not here and there,but actually quite often I saw them jus bounce...then I stopped using g-wagons...

[PartyJaeger]

last 2 games with terror, my geshutzes were able to  miss 3-4 time in row in several instances, i would take bounce at least!

and I thought it would be something like lesser marder, it is shit. if it happens again definitelly saving replay to look into.

[BigDick]

it bounces half of the shots that hits
and it does not hit 25% of the shots

but gwaggon is still good just not as unit itsself but in aspect of the faction that gets it you can make good use out of it because it gives you the possibility to save munitions (as AT) you can use for some other special terror stuff

[Hicks58]

The Geschitz is the gamblers variant of the Marder III. Instead of consistent medium damage, you have random high damage. If it penetrates, it does a fuck ton of damage.

[PartyJaeger]

yeah, that was mmy way of thinking, to have 3-4 geshutz and save munitions for oaks full packages...


but if you have bad karma as it seems you can be genuinely fucked by geshutz unreliability

[3rdCondor]

I love the Jag

[PartyJaeger]

btw, does rapid fire for 45 mun help? or is it only increasing ROF and nothing else, so at least you finally hit sooner?

[Mister Schmidt]

Pretty sure the Geschutz has the same gun as the Marder now

[Tymathee]

Pretty sure the Geschutz has the same gun as the Marder now

i thought it got changed back a while ago, or at least same gun, more damage.

[TheVolskinator]

Marder and Gesh suck ass, but everyone that gets them spams the fuck out of them. I must really be missing something here then. You guys always QQ about how terribad your AT units are, and then when you instakill the first thing that sticks its toe out from behind a shot blocker its all giggles. Amazing. What next, stormtroopers are UP because they dont shoot V1s out of their asses to confound the enemy?

There are so many more reward units for Ze Germanz...and you want more? Meanwhile, the allies even hint at wanting one and it's gamebreaking? 

Some new units would be great, although those models have been around for quite a while. I'd love the Jackson as an Armor unlock (such as how WM gets the Gesh and then the KT; Jackson and Pershing) in an 'american marder' role. Just new allied units that don't die just as easily as their non reward counterparts (versus axis reward units that rarely dissapoint or fail to LOLWTFescape danger).

[smurfORnot]

marder is just fine...