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[Shabtajus]

ok so, i would like to ask what is wrong here?

as we all know m10 is dedicated to be TD. I agree that having 6 or 7 of them its just stupid and hard for axis armour. We got price increase, also endless QQ about about m10 sniping infantry, it does not matter that it takes few shots to kill 1 poor guy. Than allies got this - Main gun accuracy of M10/18 versus infantry reduced to 0.15. I know guys u will be talking about m10 krush ability, it awesome but its so risky (thx to stomrs). Penetration increasing is not so noticable, most of the time shots are bounced (exept hvap, but its other long story).

and here are panthers... correct me if i am wrong, but panthers are TD like m10s? They cost 3x times more but its 3x time harder to kill than m10s. So why panthers can kill inf so effectively? Panther can krush inf as good as m10, i just dont get it why they are not nerfed as m10s vs inf or atgs? Panther can circle atg and kill all crew in 2 shots since m10.....

i am playing both sides so its not allied player BS, just looks like these days its so damn hard to play allies, i would compare playing allies like anal sex for guys who are in jail, still sex but aint fun at all.

My point would be here to reduce at least damn acc vs atgs, cuz its aint coll when tank can kill atgs so fast

[Hicks58]

Panther's have a lovely 0.6 accuracy against infantry.

Start throwing in doctrine unlocks such as Panzer Aces and things become even more fun.

[Smokaz]

imo panther accuracy vs inf could be looked at

[smurfORnot]

2 m10's came and killed my vet 2 panther   there was even pak behind which managed to get shot or 2.
it's more risky to crush with panther ,cuz of stickies,than it's with m10.

[Demon767]

Panthers are medium tanks

[Shabtajus]

Damage engine < dead tank

so we can talk what is more risky, and u dont need to krush with panthers u can just shoot inf lol

[NightRain]

The panther itself is fine to be fair. The metagame surely loves them at this point and even if they are annoying with their sniping abilities its not as life threatning as people make it out. The best thing to do however is currently try to prevent their mobility with Mines and ATGs, should they charge, sticky bombs. Anything that can combat a long range vehicle with range is welcome to shoot at them whenever possible. Result: 14 pop doing nothing but staring at a wall. Similar counters apply to any heavy class vehicle.

[Spartan_Marine88]

The Panther is a Medium Tank not a Tank Destroyer

[AmPM]

It's because of the pricing, the FU cost needs to be adjusted upwards. They are as or more effective than a Tiger and you can take 3 of them. That is wrong.

Adjust FU cost to 510 and leave skirts at 40. Solved.

[Spartan_Marine88]

Not a bad idea AMPM

[Tymathee]

Yeah, price increase. I think they got a 100 fu decrease last time right, might've been too much.

[Shabtajus]

The Panther is a Medium Tank not a Tank Destroyer

yea its medium, and mediums deals with heavies like pershings without problems haha, yea its medium tank

[Nug]

In real life panther was a medium tank but in CoH it's a heavy tank.

[Tymathee]

It's a heavy medium tank destroyer, with the benefits of all and none of their weaknesses.

OMG, the Panther is Blade

tankedit: unrelated pics removed

[nikomas]

Isnt the panther and later war tanks like those more akin to modern MBT's?
Anyway, the panther is a Medium-Heavy Tank

[Spartan_Marine88]

The panther was designated a medium tank, and was the next evolution of the P4.

Its concept was what alot of modern MBT's were designed after. Shab unfortunately doesn't realize how stupid he sounds, and is.

So let me spell it out for him.

The Pershing was also a medium tank. OH MAH GOD!

Guess what it was designed to do? Do everything a tank was supposed to do (this includes killing infantry) as well as be able to pop heavies like the Tiger.

[DarkSoldierX]

Whats this dumb shit about classification.

In EiR, A panther is a for the most part a tank destroyer. How can that NOT be agreed upon? Sure it has .6 acc vs infantry, but you must remember it also has .5 modifier against moving infantry. It also has a near irrelevant splash.

It is quite obviously meant to KILL TANKS. Who fucking cares about what it could do in the real war? Do we see jagdpanthers running around gibbing riflemen with HE rounds? Do we see 76mm shermans with the same high explosive capabilities as the lower velocity gun?

[AmPM]

Actually, Jadg's gib infantry pretty good....as do 76mm Shermans.

[DarkSoldierX]

Actually, Jadg's gib infantry pretty good....as do 76mm Shermans.

Do you not get the fucking point?

76 sherman has less splash than a 75. Its optimized towards killing tanks rather than infantry compared to the 75mm.

Jagd, he has a 88mm gun, why can't he take on infantry with a REAL HE round if he needs to just like in the real war?

[Tymathee]

lmao.  this argument is ridiculous, it's all about semantics. Who cares about it's classification.

for what it does, does anything need to be changed especially with the new medium and tank destroyer changes.