Demon767
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« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2012, 04:27:37 am » |
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Ahnungsloser
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« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2012, 04:31:26 am » |
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Just make it like the cloaked airborne support teams. The first times i tried to use it, it seemed that it does not work, but then I noticed the
delay until they cloaked.
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« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2012, 07:44:41 am » |
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Just make it like the cloaked airborne support teams. The first times i tried to use it, it seemed that it does not work, but then I noticed the
delay until they cloaked.
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tank130
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« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2012, 08:58:56 am » |
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Make it like Hetzer cloak.
It will not cloak if it is in sight range of any opposing unit, and there is a 5 second delay to cloak.
Then reduce their price a little.
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Hicks58
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« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2012, 09:07:15 am » |
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^ This.
Tbh, no unit should be able to suddenly cloak in the middle of combat. It makes absolutely no sense.
And then, from a gameplay point of view, it irritates the shit out of the people on the receiving end of it.
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I mean I know Obama was the first one in EiR to get a card. and tbfh the Race card is pretty OP. but Romney has the K.K.K., those guys seem to camo anywhere. So OP units from both sides.
At the end of the day, however, stormtroopers finally got the anal invasion with a cactus they have richly deserved for years.
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« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2012, 10:58:56 am » |
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I'd rather have no cloak and cheaper storms than half-cloak and very small decrease.
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« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2012, 12:53:07 pm » |
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I'd rather drop blitzkrieg doc and go Defensive, get failschrimjäger cloaking grenadiers with officer buffs + 33% more accuracy when ambush shooting. All which blitzkrieg lacks. Stormtroopers are used just because of their cloak, nerfing it away makes them nothing more but grenadiers with 15 more hp per men.
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« Reply #47 on: May 20, 2012, 12:54:05 pm » |
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nerfing it away makes them nothing more but grenadiers with 15 more hp per men.
Which is entirely fine for the correct price, having better grens with mp44 is enough a reason to buy them. The -correct price- applies to both mp44 and the mp and pool price.... Actualy dropping cloak and making storms a viable normal unit might be a way to make them usefull and not only for alpha shreckstrike. |
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« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2012, 12:57:45 pm » |
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Which is entirely fine for the correct price, having better grens with mp44 is enough a reason to buy them.
The -correct price- applies to both mp44 and the mp and pool price....
No, they wouldn't. You'd invest a Doc point and more general resources into said squad along with more pool than a grenadier squad without getting anything in return. 2 Mp44s and medkit? Wont beat a LMG42 and medkit. |
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« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2012, 12:58:58 pm » |
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No, they wouldn't. You'd invest a Doc point and more general resources into said squad along with more pool than a grenadier squad without getting anything in return.
note the correct price that applies also to pool |
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« Reply #50 on: May 20, 2012, 01:06:44 pm » |
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note the correct price that applies also to pool
Note that the pool would still be Higher than a original Grenadier squad's no matter what. |
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« Reply #51 on: May 20, 2012, 01:08:50 pm » |
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Note that the pool would still be Higher than a original Grenadier squad's no matter what.
Well if it would be 5, compared to grens 4, that's a cost i'm willing to accept for them without cloak. |
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tank130
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« Reply #52 on: May 20, 2012, 01:28:31 pm » |
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Note that the pool would still be Higher than a original Grenadier squad's no matter what.
Which Dev team member confirmed that? |
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Mister Schmidt
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« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2012, 01:31:35 pm » |
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Well they kind of have to be considering they'd still be better than Grens...
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« Reply #54 on: May 20, 2012, 01:35:36 pm » |
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Which Dev team member confirmed that?
None of the Dev team, It was my logical thinking and the reason was said by the guy above me |
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« Reply #55 on: May 20, 2012, 01:36:48 pm » |
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None of the Dev team, It was my logical thinking and was confirmed by the guy above me
Maybe they would be only by MP and not the pool? who knows..... |
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« Reply #56 on: May 20, 2012, 02:27:50 pm » |
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^ This.
Tbh, no unit should be able to suddenly cloak in the middle of combat. It makes absolutely no sense.
And then, from a gameplay point of view, it irritates the shit out of the people on the receiving end of it.
hence my rage for the unit when as I said about 10 times before; "5 meters infront of a HMG getting SHOT AT, they cloak right in front of him, stop getting shot at, then just grenade HMG that should of been destroying them" |
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Smokaz
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« Reply #57 on: May 20, 2012, 02:55:48 pm » |
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Which Dev team member confirmed that?
Derp |
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« Reply #58 on: May 21, 2012, 02:04:16 am » |
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hence my rage for the unit when as I said about 10 times before; "5 meters infront of a HMG getting SHOT AT, they cloak right in front of him, stop getting shot at, then just grenade HMG that should of been destroying them"
Support weapons were never meant to be left alone. It's in the name.... "support". It's your own fault for not having a rifle squad, or flame engies, or literally anything around that mg to protect it. A Jeep. A single jeep and those stormies would have been fucked. It's poor form (and bad for gameplay) if a unit is nerfed simply because a few people can't wrap their head around the concept of scouting and response. |
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« Reply #59 on: May 21, 2012, 02:50:32 am » |
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I used storm bundle nades fuew times,every time I threw it on ATG it never killed anyone from crew,took about 50% health,but everyone was always alive.
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