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[NightRain]

People, I'm sure those who have gone to the army have pointed a weapon at a person. Shot toward a person and so on. In war it is different than on the streets. Like I said earlier, one does not simply shoot another man. If anyone gets mugged and has a knife on their throat it usually shocks people enough to stop proper thinking, you can not operate normally when your life is threatned, it is a natural instict and therefore you do as the other one says and once he runs away there is possibly very little you can do about it afterwards but thank anything and everything that the guy did not shove the weapon down your throat. If by some manageable way you pull out your weapon and take aim at the robber, knife or a pistol there are 2 things that can happen. The mugger gets scared or then he bluffs. No one can kill a man without hatred and by hatred I mean deep passionate anger. If you are a first timer you'd probably shake like a leaf, you'd feel fear grasping your throat, panting desperately etc and you are unable to concentrate. It can be that the mugger is a person with nothing to lose and therefore ready to fight you over the possession of the weapon. Many things could happen really but the main point stands. If you get suddenly attacked by a mysterious force, you will be left shocked and pretty much scared without proper experience of said cases.

To counter robbers, one must have 2 wallets. In Russia I carried 2 wallets, one fake and one real. The fake one was more visual than the fake one and each of them had very little cash. Also the second wallet was tied to me somehow so that if it is stolen I will most likely notice. The less money and valuables you carry, the better. If you get mugged you can happily give out your wallet and the guy will be satisfied with that few dollar bills he finds.

[Ahnungsloser]

Maybe 6 years ago (I was ~14 there), four guys (20 up to 25 years old) catched me at night while I was on my to home and these surely wanted to cause some trouble. I was really lucky that only one dude was aggressive and knocked me to the ground and kicked me while I was laying on the ground. Two of them we're hang-ons which we're just wannabe gangsters and we're completly shocked when this happens and the last guy tried to to calm down the dude who was dashing me out.

A few minutes later they walked a away because I didn't cry anymore because I was completly shocked. Several weeks after this I still feeled scared and walked in fear around the streets, espacially when it was late, and everytime when I saw someone who looked like a mugger I started to think "Shit this guy looks like.. ..maybe he will..".


Nowadays I think it was a important experience because the next time when something like this I will react completly. But even shit like that happen to me I never thought to carry a wapeon with me. Carring a wapeon and using a wapeon when it comes to the point are two different things and if you are not prepared for this situation you will fail to use this wapeon. If you're unlucky you have someone who is ready to use his wapeon and "forced" him to kill you because he saw your wapeon and paniced. Nightrain discribed this really good.

[Sachaztan]

Some of you guys...

Do you seriously think that it's worth risking your life to keep your wallet or are you just so deluded and "macho" that you think there's no chance that you will die/be crippled/severely injured?

[nikomas]

Some of you guys...

Do you seriously think that it's worth risking your life to keep your wallet or are you just so deluded and "macho" that you think there's no chance that you will die/be crippled/severely injured?

Only like one or two people at most really

[DarkSoldierX]

People, I'm sure those who have gone to the army have pointed a weapon at a person. Shot toward a person and so on. In war it is different than on the streets. Like I said earlier, one does not simply shoot another man. If anyone gets mugged and has a knife on their throat it usually shocks people enough to stop proper thinking, you can not operate normally when your life is threatned, it is a natural instict and therefore you do as the other one says and once he runs away there is possibly very little you can do about it afterwards but thank anything and everything that the guy did not shove the weapon down your throat. If by some manageable way you pull out your weapon and take aim at the robber, knife or a pistol there are 2 things that can happen. The mugger gets scared or then he bluffs. No one can kill a man without hatred and by hatred I mean deep passionate anger. If you are a first timer you'd probably shake like a leaf, you'd feel fear grasping your throat, panting desperately etc and you are unable to concentrate. It can be that the mugger is a person with nothing to lose and therefore ready to fight you over the possession of the weapon. Many things could happen really but the main point stands. If you get suddenly attacked by a mysterious force, you will be left shocked and pretty much scared without proper experience of said cases.

Well thats why you train so much it becomes instinct.

Some of you guys...

Do you seriously think that it's worth risking your life to keep your wallet or are you just so deluded and "macho" that you think there's no chance that you will die/be crippled/severely injured?

No one ever said that they were invincible. But im sure a lot of us would rather not give in to the scum of the world when they have another choice.

[tank130]

** waits for all the gamer geeks, wanna be tough guys, to spout off about how they would defend themselves with a weapon......

It was just a matter of time.........

[Sachaztan]

It was just a matter of time.........

Lend me your psychic power of precognition plz.

[Jodomar]

What a good knife can do in the right hands: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBfx5_thw8A

[brn4meplz]

Not really applicable to real world scenarios. The gut thrusts sure, you can easily control a subject with his neck and jab him a few times. Most people fight back violently. Like beyond their normal strength. Most people can actuaklly stab pretty quick, the main issue is that the expectant mentality of pulling out the blade results in shallow thrusts. Like when people know they are going to pull punches.


Also, that gel dummy has no spine?



What it comes down to is: DO NOT get a knife unless you have rudimentary training or plan on getting training in it's use. A large majority of Knife related injuries are self inflicted. Even criminals who use knives get caught up in things and cut their own hands and bodies open by mistake.

There are quite a few less than lethal options which won't result in intensive police questioning after the fact.


EDIT. I was trying to find a study for you. Can't remember what it's called but basically someone profiled a huge whack of serial killers and nearly all of them admitted they looked for body language cues or subtle behavior that suggested they were weaker, easier prey.

Things like looking down while walking, walking with your hands in your pockets, anything that might suggest you're not paying attention or will submit easily. The same traits apply to lesser criminals, even if they recognize it consciously or not. Animals[us] have been doing it for as long as there has been something else to eat. those things are still embedded into us.

[Jodomar]

That's why I said in the right hands. That dude is a Navy Seal and you're right about hurting yourself while using a knife if untrained. If trained, you can devastate someone in a matter of seconds before they even know what happened. Only problem is that this would more then likely result in the death of who ever was on the receiving end of your knife which could cause legal issues. To fight with a knife is to not let someone know you have one and to attack quickly. So it is not a tool that you would use to deter someone with really, unless they are not that serious about robbing you. Now if they grabbed your throat then it's on like donkey kong and you have full right to respond with lethal force.

[PonySlaystation]

You can also get a big dog, one that eats babies out of carriages and attacks on command. No mugger is gonna take that risk when you have a vicious beast by your side and if he does the dog will instantly slit his throat and rip all the intestines out. As an added bonus, you don't have to purchase dog food, just let him eat a few homeless people or neighboring pets.

[Jodomar]

What about a killer attack rabbit like in monty python holy grail. No one would ever see that coming!

[hans]

sad to hear riki 

[tankmaster23]

 The best thing to do is be aware of your surroundings and don't let them get the drop on you and I m not sure what these people are telling you weapons stop these types of things but you have to know how to use the weapon you are wielding...

 Rocksitter

[aeroblade56]

Rocksitter must get mugged alot he cant even use a mouse properly.          If your tank you dont give your wallet, you pay him to atop mugging you.                   

[Jodomar]

[Sachaztan]

Now if they grabbed your throat then it's on like donkey kong and you have full right to respond with lethal force.

Actually no, it doesn't quite work like that.

Depending on the situation it may count as self-defence, manslaughter or even murder.

If you carry around a knife and then attack a unarmed robber repeatedly you are very likely to go to prison.

[PonySlaystation]

But if he's unarmed (very unlikely) and you have a weapon then you have the upper hand.

[Sachaztan]

But if he's unarmed (very unlikely) and you have a weapon then you have the upper hand.

And then you are suddenly an even worse criminal than the guy robbing you.

[PonySlaystation]

Carrying a weapon is not criminal, at least on the US.