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[ALLiDOisWIN]

As i have been playing a bit more OMG i thought to myself.. What if eirr had less fuel? I think game play would be a bit more fun TBH. like if we started out with 1200 fuel and had a chance to get at least 1400 fuel with resource bonuses. And maybe even go with only being able to have a maximum of one Pershing and tiger and panther... Those are my thoughts, let me know what you guys think   

[hans]

we had this discussion on a smaller base already. The conclusion was that less fuel would cripple PE coz they rely alot on vehicles killing as an example allied elite infantry. Elite inf would win with a fuel reduction + very good buffed infantry...and we all know that the fractions have infantry buffs to a different degree.

you have to adjust not only fuel then but also for balance sake alot of different other things.

PS: although u are right, with the ressource points we can field 4 sherman jumbos right now (if iam right), so hmm maybe a smaller decrease might be positive...but radical reduction will cause more problems i guess.

[ALLiDOisWIN]

yes you are right, just annoying to see 3 panthers or 2 panthers and a tiger... Like who has at for that shit

[AmPM]

Really...you don't have enough AT to deal with that?

[ALLiDOisWIN]

i have an average of 4 ATGs and like an hellcat or something

[smurfORnot]

The conclusion was that less fuel would cripple PE coz they rely alot on vehicles killing

then simply give them ATG,lol,so they don't have to spend most of their fuel on AT.

[Ahnungsloser]

Additionally they need a doctrine independent crowd control unit to be able to handle the more infantry based metagame. But maybe we can give them back the soldier armour, but it's possible that this will result in mercyless PE blobbing.. .

[smurfORnot]

you blob vs allies and you are just asking to get that arty/callie barrage right into middle of your blob

[Shabtajus]

dont compare OMG and EIRR, it different play styles, if u reduce fuel at current meta axis will be doomed cuz of arty and amount of inf allies can get

[smurfORnot]

then nerf allies

[puddin]

As i have been playing a bit more OMG i thought to myself.. What if eirr had less fuel? I think game play would be a bit more fun TBH. like if we started out with 1200 fuel and had a chance to get at least 1400 fuel with resource bonuses. And maybe even go with only being able to have a maximum of one Pershing and tiger and panther... Those are my thoughts, let me know what you guys think   

Increase Manpwoer and munitions. 

The current problem is not reducing,its expanding.  Armies are so increadably small that people lose somethign and it leaves a massive gap in their army.  Meanwhile if they were able to have a little bit more, it would help stem the tide of vbehicles. 

Let the customability live, and let it expand.  Reducing it chokes the game

[XIIcorps]

i agree with pudding, having the variety of say the blitzkerig mods units would make this game unrivaled.
and would allow for more themed companies further immersing gameplay

[hans]

Increase Manpwoer and munitions. 

The current problem is not reducing,its expanding.  Armies are so increadably small that people lose somethign and it leaves a massive gap in their army.  Meanwhile if they were able to have a little bit more, it would help stem the tide of vbehicles. 

Let the customability live, and let it expand.  Reducing it chokes the game

i disagree!

we already reach playtimes of 30 to 40 min in a 3v3 and over 1 hour in a 4v4. With more ressources, it will take longer. And also in this way the PE player is crippled because he has still not a comparable good infantry he can rely on...

I see the same problems with fuel there, only an increase wont be the only thing u have to do/adjust.

+ u have to adjust pools of the units too

[dailydose]

If decreasing fuel will cripple PE players, why not lower everyone's fuel except PE's?

You can easily implement this through the advantages section. For example, if you lower everyone's base fuel by 300, give PE extra advantage points which automatically go to Fuel, cancelling out the base fuel reduction for PE. If you can't give extra advantages point for PE without giving it everyone else for code reasons, then you can create a "dummy" advantage which gives no benefits, and assign the extra advantage points of non-PE players to the dummy.

[Groundfire]

If decreasing fuel will cripple PE players, why not lower everyone's fuel except PE's?

You can easily implement this through the advantages section. For example, if you lower everyone's base fuel by 300, give PE extra advantage points which automatically go to Fuel, cancelling out the base fuel reduction for PE. If you can't give extra advantages point for PE without giving it everyone else for code reasons, then you can create a "dummy" advantage which gives no benefits, and assign the extra advantage points of non-PE players to the dummy.

The launcher doesnt work this way. It might potentially in the future but it doesnt now.

The best solution would be to lower starting fuel and then lowering fuel costs for PE units.

[RikiRude]

reduce FU and simply reduce FU cost of PE stuff.

i dont think a big reduction is necessary, but it needs to be reduced by at least 100, 200 would be better I think though.

[AmPM]

reduce FU and simply reduce FU cost of PE stuff.

i dont think a big reduction is necessary, but it needs to be reduced by at least 100, 200 would be better I think though.

Reduce Mu and Manpower too, to prevent people from spamming infantry and support options.

[chefarzt]

Yeah coys with more than 10 units just make for too long games.

[AmPM]

It's true, a Fu decrease would require AT assets to raise in cost by an equivalent percentage...basically, you would see less vehicles, but less AT as well.

[chefarzt]

Actually im totally with Puddin. If stuff goes on like this well be playing EIRR:Commandos soon™.