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[nikomas]

No Tym, that's anyone with their head screwed on right or anyone that can read stats.

[RikiRude]

No Tym, that's anyone with their head screwed on right or anyone that can read stats.

true.

also pony are you saying that SE has nothing else useful in it?

[nikomas]

Yeah, it's not like saturation minefields, flammens, incendiary ist's and so on have anything going for em! ... Waaaait a second 

[Jodomar]

The cali with main gun is just plain dumb, at the same time it's barrage is really not that great. When spammed it can become a problem from it being able to be used as a normal Sherman on top of it being an artillery piece. I say bring back dual rocket racks with the a reduce cool down. This brings it back inline with being an artillery piece while still making it viable to have.

[ick312]

The difference is that armor isn't a dedicated artillery doctrine. They also have Pershings, T17s, mark target jeeps, HE shermans and APCR hellcats. Much more versatility and different buffs. Mid T4 with incendiary Hummel is the only one that can supersede the Calliope but that T4 also doesn't come with a lot of other useful buffs.

+1

[nikomas]

I hate to break it to you, but SE sure as hell ain't no dedicated artillery doctrine. The fact that you think so does make me wonder.

[Tymathee]

I hate to break it to you, but SE sure as hell ain't no dedicated artillery doctrine. The fact that you think so does make me wonder.

what...it's not? j/k

the only other doc that has more arty options is RCA and they have Artillery in their name.

I wish some of their doc abilities worked as advertised, they'd be truly frightning.

[PonySlaystation]

I hate to break it to you, but SE sure as hell ain't no dedicated artillery doctrine. The fact that you think so does make me wonder.

Every faction has one doctrine that's focused primarily on artillery. For Panzer Elite it's Scorched Earth. It's the only only Panzer Elite doctrine with self-propelled artillery. But hey if there are no boundaries, why not give howitzers to Airborne, Blitzkrieg, Luftwaffe, Commandos, Tank Destroyers and Royal Engineers?

The Calliope is an exception to the rule because it's barrage is supposed to be less effective than other artillery due to it having stronger armor.

[Mysthalin]

It's the only only Panzer Elite doctrine with self-propelled artillery

lol

[PonySlaystation]

The SdKfz. 250/7 schwerer granatwerfer is not considered self-propelled artillery. There is usually a pretty big difference between self-propelled artillery, rocket artillery and mortars, especially during WW2.

[nikomas]

Pony, You're missing the rocket launching point. And while hummels do play a part in the SE doctrine, I would not got as far as to call it an "Artillery" doctrine, you have to understand the distinction I'm making here.

If anything, I would call SE the "Area Denial" or "Fire... you know, Scorched Earth" doctrine.

[Mysthalin]

The SdKfz. 250/7 schwerer granatwerfer is not considered self-propelled artillery. There is usually a pretty big difference between self-propelled artillery, rocket artillery and mortars, especially during WW2.

lol, not what I was refering to at all.

[PonySlaystation]

The hotchkiss stuka is not a doctrinal unit and doesn't even perform close to other artillery.

[Mysthalin]

The hotchkiss stuka is not a doctrinal unit and doesn't even perform close to other artillery.

Lol l2p?

[PonySlaystation]

Trolling is against the forum rules.

[Mysthalin]

Yeah, thought so too, but you're still posting for some reason.

[tank130]

k, guise.....

Bring it back on topic please