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[nikomas]

As I said before tank, the majority of the community afaik appreciates the work you've done, just ignore the dicks... To be fair, dicks are common round here 

[hans]

the only issue i see is that the developement team was listening to the community. In the beginning of eirr devs made their own salate, right now they listen too much to the community. Opinions are opinions doesnt mean that u have to make a plan out of that. if someone dislikes sth, give a shit about it.

So my appeal for devs:

give a shit about the community, do ur job and believe me, deep in ur heart u know that u do the right thing. That worked in 2007 and will do in 2012.

over and out!

[Contaminator]

but...but... this kind of crap can be expected. I know Valexandes and myself love the fact that new maps are being added and old maps updated. Val and I are both working on new ones.

People tend to notice more when shit sucks than when it is good so the insults seem to happen more often then compliments.

Don't let two ungrateful people get two you. They are the minority. And there will always be the complainers and whiners of the game this is true of any game you ever play. If they actually had problems with the game the would leave and the community would be better off.

Don't make me beg... its not pretty

[TheWindCriesMary]

Tank, if you are retiring from this (which I don't think you should), can you at least re-add Arnhem and Linden to the mod before you do?

[hans]

we could lock the forumz for a month maybe?

and everytime one person was posting insults we can lock the forumz for another month? or we ban that guy.


if u post release notes, don t let the community give feedback, lock the topic afterwards.

WHY THE HELL COULD SHAB AND MASACRE POST THIS?

we need more strict rules. ONCE u have posted an insult or any other stupid bullshit, BAN THIS GUY.

WHY IS SHAB NOT BANNED FOR HIS CRAPP? look at his history of posts tbh, nothing useful

BAN THOSE GUYS.

okay sry for big letters.

[chefarzt]

Yeah and brown nose more.

[chefarzt]

WHY IS SHAB NOT BANNED FOR HIS CRAPP? look at his history of posts tbh, nothing useful


okay sry for big letters.

At least hes playing this, keeping it alive, unlike u, monkey boy.

[hans]

At least hes playing this, keeping it alive, unlike u, monkey boy.

lol u? u do not provide and help anything and support idiots? eat ur own shit man srsly

[chefarzt]

i dont provide and support idiots? cmon. I do that alot

[aeroblade56]

I can say being one of the biggest retards currently available. Even i participated in the help of maps I post on quite a few with pictures and the causes of problems on the maps. Also i have offered to help gorkhali with his maps.

Thankyou Tank for putting in the time of mapping lead you did more work on it in 2 weeks then most did in months Haha. Thanks.

[Masacree]

Hey man, I'm sorry that I offended you.

[Valexandes]

I really liked all the stuff that you did. I thought it was really good to get organized feedback thread on the maps. I liked seeing that there were a number of updates to maps showing that people were actually working on them. I love the new maps themselves and the efforts to get more plays for new maps.

The fact that your push for people to play new maps coincides with new maps of yours coming out makes sense. Maps take a lot of work and in this mod new maps typically don't get played much. You noticed both these things and made an effort to improve it that's what we need. I also saw all this stuff happening and thought "hell, if I make a decent map maybe it'll actually get some attention and feedback and some plays on it."
Now I retouched my 2v2 map with a lot of fixes and improvements and am hard at work on a 3v3 map.

People are going to complain and bitch but they just do it to complain. Many of them aren't active or don't map at all so they can go stuff it when it comes to criticizing others efforts.

I hope you do push for your maps to get played and I hope you push for any new maps to get played because people put a lot of time into them and they are usually pretty good and deserve to get a few plays and have people give them a try.

[rolcsika0128]

I also love the new maps so much.. finally some fresh air. So I'm pretty sure the majority of the community really appreciates the effort you put into this whole map thing, from creating maps to trying to make some order in this complete eir "map-mess". Egletons and Adaire are actually my favorite maps atm.

I mean come on tank, you don't seem to be the guy who gives the slightest shit about some internet people's trashtalk, regardless the fact if they seriously mean to offend you or not. Eir maps have never been so fun for me so far. (I've been playing this for like a year now)
Ignore negative (non-constructive) comments, and keep up the good work if you still feel like doing this.

[PonySlaystation]

don't give up just because of some insulting comments.

[chefarzt]

How about this:

Patch 0.8.A-4 gets released. Patch thread posted in News forum:

Resulting posts:
http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=23813.msg423597#msg423597


0.7.9.Z.2 gets released. Patch thread posted in News forum:
Resulting posts
http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=24700.msg436924#msg436924


I could do this all day long. Every time the team puts something out, we get people insulting and complaining about it. And often when we release things we get comments like, 'about fucking time'.

So care to elaborate what was so insulting in this posts? Hmmm 1 pic of fatty in a pink dress and one guy saying he doesnt like the patch. U guys must have been furious.

[PonySlaystation]

But you have to consider Tank, you aren't always divine right. There may lie reason and logic in other people's arguments. Just because you have a good intention doesn't always make you right or that there can be no downsides to an idea.

Trying to change the map rotation may be considered both radical and unnecessary.

Trying to prove that Skaffa's map building is exaggerated may also be viewed as unnecessary and unconvincing.

Your replies to these threads have been less than understanding, unserious as well as attempts at ridicule which may also be considered as trolling. People try to explain why some things doesn't work and they get replies like these:

Here is a good old CoH, 2v2 map - Semois

how the hell could anyone claim Skaffa is superior in map design

He did not invent the map, he just simply labeled an existing one

ROFLMAO..........

you do not read, or you do not comprehend what you read

Not really much of an argument really.......LOL

Without having played the map, you claim or rather deny, Skaffa's contribution is non-existant and anyone who tries to prove otherwise is blind. I don't think trolling and discrediting other map makers makes you more respectable than any of the other trolls.

As for massacre's comment, that's unfortunate, but you shouldn't take it personally. Teachers, politicians, police officers - they're insulted all the time. That doesn't mean that they do their job badly. They're insulted because these people are in charge and they're not. You've done a good job adding maps and writing tutorials. Which is all the map lead has to do. You don't need to expand beyond that.

[Shabtajus]

we could lock the forumz for a month maybe?

and everytime one person was posting insults we can lock the forumz for another month? or we ban that guy.


if u post release notes, don t let the community give feedback, lock the topic afterwards.

WHY THE HELL COULD SHAB AND MASACRE POST THIS?

we need more strict rules. ONCE u have posted an insult or any other stupid bullshit, BAN THIS GUY.

WHY IS SHAB NOT BANNED FOR HIS CRAPP? look at his history of posts tbh, nothing useful

BAN THOSE GUYS.

okay sry for big letters.

lol u fail guy its not an army for u where every1 is punished for a mistake or trolling made by 1 men  rofl

[chefarzt]

MOOOAR rulez. Ask Shab for Halp to setup Gulag. Only CACAO FOR dInNEr

[chefarzt]

we need more strict rules. ONCE u have posted an insult or any other stupid bullshit, BAN THIS GUY.

eat ur own shit man srsly

Dimwit much?
Give me 1000 Hans` and I give you the 4th Reich.

[Shabtajus]

Dimwit much?
Give me 1000 Hans` and I give you the 4th Reich.

that shit is funnym, 1st time cheffy's bullshit made me laugh