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ick312
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heal support weapons
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April 02, 2013, 08:46:02 am »
Gentlemen,
the triage (t2) and the medic bunker (t3) are healing infantry and support weapons. Well thats the issue, the player can just pull his atg back to the healbunker and "tada" its repaired. And he can use it again.
This is especially an issue for PE since they have less elegant ways of decrewing atgs. No sniper, arty but mortar, still its really hard to deal with an opponent who can just repair his atg. Atgs are in general a massive threat to PE since their best stuff is on HTs.
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Spartan_Marine88
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Re: heal support weapons
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April 02, 2013, 08:52:44 am »
yes, tada after 4 min that atg will be at full health!
If you think PE has no other artillery, then you need to become familiar with the hotchkiss stuka which when properly used (ie not at max range) it is a rape machine
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TheIcelandicManiac
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Re: heal support weapons
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April 02, 2013, 09:26:47 am »
Holy shit, you are worse at balance than nugnug.
srsly, learn how to MortarHT flame rounds and stukas.
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Hicks58
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Re: heal support weapons
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April 02, 2013, 09:36:12 am »
*Cracks open bag of popcorn and lets everybody else have fun with this one*
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ick312
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Re: heal support weapons
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April 02, 2013, 10:02:20 am »
kind of cute that 2 noobs tell me how to play:
Stuka is known for its awesome accuracy.
and icy u tell me how to use mortar HT? - Some people are suffering cause of their madness, you are enjoying it.
honestly, when does this mod get a community with brain and manners.
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nikomas
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Re: heal support weapons
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April 02, 2013, 10:07:17 am »
You realize that as far as I know all healing does this right? AB medics, SE Support Cars and what have you, you can even heal captured AT pieces with an SE scout car last time I checked if you so wish.
Better yet, I wonder if you know but squad regeneration gained via veterancy normally applies to the gun to, it's slow, but it'll heal it eventually!
So all factions can do this, what is the problem exactly? The fact that it's unfair PE has no inherent support weapons to heal with this?
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Spartan_Marine88
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Re: heal support weapons
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April 02, 2013, 10:11:29 am »
Quote from: ick312 on April 02, 2013, 10:02:20 am
kind of cute that 2 noobs tell me how to play:
no one can tell you how to play, you refuse to learn.
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ick312
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Posts: 534
Re: heal support weapons
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April 02, 2013, 10:17:02 am »
hello niko,
Well the problem is that PE has most of their good stuff on HT, which go down with 2 shots. So flanking and decrewing an atg, with LV is possible but than destroying it, takes time and you are usually pushed away. They grab it and heal it. And the whole damaging of the atg was senseless.
The other thing is that you sometimes hit an atg in a fight, and just pull it back and "repair" it, and the one shrek shoot that u gave it, is senseless.
just think about a Tank with infinite repairs, thats it! a vehicle pushing back vehicles with infinite with repairs.
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brn4meplz
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Re: heal support weapons
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April 02, 2013, 10:21:16 am »
I agree PE has some issues. Healing support weapons is a minor reward for good use of them.
Look to the next patch for some PE love.
My most successful PE companies had LOTS of Mortar Halftracks(like 4-5)
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nikomas
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Re: heal support weapons
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April 02, 2013, 10:36:01 am »
How about I put it like this then? We can repair vehicles (if a limited sense) and we can heal infartry in a broad scope, but we cannot repair support weapons and giving them repair kits would be pretty silly. From a logical standpoint, it is not to strange to imagine the crew patching up holes in their weapon while patching up their woulds, is it not?
While PE vehicles being vulnerable to fire from a lot of things can indeed be an issue, I struggle to see it being the cause of reusable support weapons. It is also a "feature" that all factions can use and so can PE If they manage to capture some support weapons of their own, and not all doctrines have healing to begin with.
PE has a few issues, but I do not believe this is one of them and neither does most of the community... Hence why they're making a joke of this thread.
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NightRain
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Re: heal support weapons
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April 02, 2013, 12:22:12 pm »
PE's primary threat and the only threat that will stop them dead in their tracks no matter what is the anti tank gun. There is no going around it.
I agree that healing on support weapons is fine and like brn pointed out it is a reward for using them well and actually trying to keep them alive.
Though if PE recieves some love, I'm going to sit with hicks, steal his popcorn and watch how this situation unfolds.
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ick312
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Re: heal support weapons
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April 02, 2013, 12:57:59 pm »
Quote from: nikomas on April 02, 2013, 10:36:01 am
How about I put it like this then? We can repair vehicles (if a limited sense) and we can heal infartry in a broad scope, but we cannot repair support weapons and giving them repair kits would be pretty silly. From a logical standpoint, it is not to strange to imagine the crew patching up holes in their weapon while patching up their woulds, is it not?
While PE vehicles being vulnerable to fire from a lot of things can indeed be an issue, I struggle to see it being the cause of reusable support weapons. It is also a "feature" that all factions can use and so can PE If they manage to capture some support weapons of their own, and not all doctrines have healing to begin with.
PE has a few issues, but I do not believe this is one of them and neither does most of the community... Hence why they're making a joke of this thread.
patching the wholes in their support weapons with medical supplies: hard to imagine. Well you could make it an unlock or a t3 special, that a triage also heals support weapons.
Just because all factions have it, doesnt mean that it is how it should be.
"most of the community" ... making a joke out of this thread. Well Hicks, Spartan and icelandick are most of the trollcommunity. They are good example of what is wrong with this community
Quote from: NightRain on April 02, 2013, 12:22:12 pm
I agree that healing on support weapons is fine and like brn pointed out it is a reward for using them well and actually trying to keep them alive.
Well, yes. It somehow rewards taking care of the atgs. But it also neglect(idk if this is the right word) hit and run tactics, which are not aiming for the crew, but are aiming for their gun. Thousand needles strikes over time also destroy an atg.
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Hicks58
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Re: heal support weapons
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April 02, 2013, 01:05:53 pm »
The problem is Ick, I've tried calmly explaining to you many times before why things are the way that they are. I've totally de-constructed and evaluated your posts in the past point by point.
However, I always get responses along the lines of "You can't teach me shit Hicks". You don't listen, you don't attempt to understand, you just sit there and wallow in your ignorance and then cry when things aren't going exactly the way that you want them.
So I sit back and watch the rest of the community do what I've already tried to do, and promptly laugh at you.
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ick312
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Re: heal support weapons
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April 02, 2013, 01:21:41 pm »
Well Hicks,
as far as i remember was our first encounter, when i took initiative and coded some ideas and posted them. Actually you started to offend me without any reason. You didnt try to convince with facts, or play experience, you tried to do it with aggression and personal offenses.
I am open to any new playstyle, i am open to any criticism and the serious players of this mod know that.
And hicksi: the community laughs about the Balance Team and other devs. You dont hear it, cause they would be banned. But trust, there are a lot of guys calling you a fool
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TheIcelandicManiac
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Re: heal support weapons
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April 02, 2013, 01:41:57 pm »
Quote from: ick312 on April 02, 2013, 01:21:41 pm
And hicksi: the community laughs about the Balance Team and other devs.
sorry to burst your bubble but That has almost always been the case, there has only been a single BTlead i have heard of that wasnt hated by the entire community and that was PQ but i dont think there ever was a patch out with him as BTLead, not one that had any lasting impact anyways.
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ick312
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Re: heal support weapons
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April 02, 2013, 01:43:15 pm »
Quote from: Alpha TIG on April 02, 2013, 01:39:07 pm
And you know what? They are all idiotic fools. Some of the stupidest people in existence. Yeah, they maybe good COH players, but that doesn't mean anything when they also believe they are right about everything just cos they are good, and as such are twats about it despite spewing stupidity. The most idiotic thing about them is how they think that people who think they are stupid for always thinking they are right are fools for thinking they are not and trying to gain some moral high ground against them.
When you are a good or great player at something you either be nice or you shut up, you certainly don't take a snobby high ground, though if you do, you are not worth anything to anyone.
honestly alpha i wouldnt call them stupid, and most of them are very gentle and willing to give ideas.
Do they take a snooby high ground? i never recognized that.
kiss still love u
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Hicks58
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Re: heal support weapons
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April 02, 2013, 01:49:49 pm »
Quote from: ick312 on April 02, 2013, 01:21:41 pm
as far as i remember was our first encounter, when i took initiative and coded some ideas and posted them. Actually you started to offend me without any reason. You didnt try to convince with facts, or play experience, you tried to do it with aggression and personal offenses.
Our first encounter? I decided to take a look through your previous posts and find where that was. It was some time last year in an 88 thread, which comprised of you agreeing with me for the most part. That'd be this thread I imagine:
http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=25473.0
Anything before that was in the passing.
Our first encounter that you remember (And are referring to), which is the one where you made a huge suggestion post which you did NOT code, you simply laid out? I put forward the offer for others to go nuts with it, and since none got to it in good time, I totally de-constructed your suggestion piece by piece. You accused me of lying, hurled insults at me, and the usual shit you do rather than facing given facts. I then proved that I wasn't lying as well, which you didn't apologise for and (Unsurprisingly) continued to throw crap at me even though most everybody in that thread could see that you were deluded and full of shit.
In fact... Here's the thread:
http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=25693.msg451231#msg451231
Quote from: ick312 on April 02, 2013, 01:21:41 pm
I am open to any new playstyle, i am open to any criticism and the serious players of this mod know that.
No Ick, you aren't. If you were, you wouldn't hurl abuse at people who prove you wrong, or bring facts which contradict what you think.
Quote from: ick312 on April 02, 2013, 01:21:41 pm
And hicksi: the community laughs about the Balance Team and other devs. You dont hear it, cause they would be banned. But trust, there are a lot of guys calling you a fool
You're entitled to hold your own belief's and I won't judge you for them. I'm nice like that.
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ick312
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Posts: 534
Re: heal support weapons
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April 02, 2013, 02:16:48 pm »
go and read the second post, and then tell me again that i started to offend you. AND YES i have made these changes, i have the files still here and if u dont believe me then u can have them
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TheIcelandicManiac
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Re: heal support weapons
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Quote from: Alpha TIG on April 02, 2013, 01:47:24 pm
Wind hates PQ
dosent wind hate everybody that isn't Canadian or sucks his toes for a living?
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Hicks58
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Re: heal support weapons
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You mean this?
Quote from: ick312 on January 13, 2013, 01:17:24 pm
HICKS U FACKING LIAR!!! DONT U HAVE A TINY BIT OF DIGNITY?
Or this?
Quote from: ick312 on January 13, 2013, 01:17:24 pm
srsly if germans hate one thing than it is that people lie without being ashamed.
just to make this clear: your post is an offend and a whole lie, you r writing bullshit in there that it is incredebile.
Best part about that, is that you were utterly wrong in calling me a liar.
And as for those files? I sure as hell don't want them. Your proposed changes were, and still are, utterly terrible.
Nothing that you ever propose for balance will ever be taken seriously. Not whilst you remain as ignorant as you are. New players can be forgiven for making silly suggestions because they don't know any better, but you've been around long enough and have seen the game files and as such should know better. Now stop and think for a second what that means when the
BT LEAD
says it.
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