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Author Topic: Possible EIRR Server Closure.  (Read 16106 times)
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« on: November 09, 2013, 08:17:27 pm »

Hi ladies and gents,

As you may or may not have noticed, the server was down for a couple of days.
We require a bit of help on our donations tab again to remain afloat.

So, I ask if you have enjoyed the mod, and play it - make a small donation to keep the server up.

On a personal note, I need to make an apology for my lack of updates of late - I was in a car accident a few months ago, and suffered a head injury, while not serious in itself, coupled with previous concussions was enough to have me unable to use computers for quite some time.

In other news, if we receive enough to hold the server up for a month or two, planning for some patches and updates will probably be forthcoming.  As it stands, going month to month is not an optimal situation for planning anything for the future.

We (as a community) have a couple of options for where EIRR can go from here, and Id like to hear your input on the following choices:
- Leave EIRR as it is, with the occasional RGD patch.
- Update the old launcher with fixes, RGD patches for balance, and add / fix some existing mechanics in place (In game, and In Launcher)
- Port over the old launcher to EIRRMods new GUI design (which would allow incremental adjustments/fixes to current mechanics) and has much better chat/interaction options (as it is not designed the same way for communication with our server).

Thank you for taking the time to read this - drop us a post here to say hi and that you're still alive!  Id love to see whos still active!
Regards
EIRRMod and the EIRR Team

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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2013, 08:41:07 pm »

tl;dr
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2013, 10:37:08 pm »

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EIRRMods new GUI
design

Hrm?
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2013, 11:11:03 pm »

which option will get done sooner?.
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GORKHALI Offline
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2013, 12:54:39 am »

i am still here..  Grin Grin Grin
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TheArea Offline
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2013, 12:57:25 am »

Hi, and nice to see server up again, but...

am I understanding you correctly to be saying that if more money (Im hazy on the amount, is it the $54 monthly tab?) does not come in EiR will be done?  Maybe not immediately, but in the near future?

And the options you list, only really make sense if there is some long term solution to the donation problem?

I dont mean to sound gloomy, but just trying to square the tenor of the post with the realistic future of the mod...

thanks.
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2013, 01:19:01 am »

Hi,

how about patch first and than money later? i dont mind pay for playing this great mod. it is still interesting for me but being tricked multiple times with promises makes me and rest of comunyti be a little bit pesimistic about patches tbh. and no tank its not personal insult to devs as u allways take critisism as the end of the world. in fact there are a lot of guys still playing this mod and even more waiting for a patch as a reason to come back.

as for eirrrmod, any changes you choose to do are very welcome, if you aint have new patch completed i offer to you update launcher with old stuff for fun since u have codes and descriptions of old patches done.
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2013, 03:16:40 am »

Ill help anyway i can, how much do we need, also the new design, will it make it easier for the devs, or what is the point of it so to say, i mean one does not just create a completely new design without an intent ^^ And if it is the case that the new version is going to make things easier for the devs and so directly influence the mods survival then im all for it ^^
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2013, 06:33:28 am »

Ill help anyway i can

"Officer of Kindness"  Grin

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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2013, 07:25:04 am »

The fact of the matter is that we have always relied on community donations to keep the mod going. Granted Tank has been generous enough at times to ''cover'' for the lack of donations, it's not a comfortable situation for us or for him. Player donations have always gone to keeping the server going, even if at times we made ''additional'' promises. It is regretabble that some of these promises were not delivered on, but please don't let that diminish the value we ascribe to your support, or the overall importance of community donations in general.

The 54$ monthly goal in the donation bar is how much we need to keep everything going.
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GrayWolf Offline
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2013, 09:46:04 am »

The new EIRRmod GUI sounds good.

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aeroblade56 Offline
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2013, 09:47:48 am »

Hi,

how about patch first and than money later? i dont mind pay for playing this great mod. it is still interesting for me but being tricked multiple times with promises makes me and rest of comunyti be a little bit pesimistic about patches tbh. and no tank its not personal insult to devs as u allways take critisism as the end of the world. in fact there are a lot of guys still playing this mod and even more waiting for a patch as a reason to come back.

as for eirrrmod, any changes you choose to do are very welcome, if you aint have new patch completed i offer to you update launcher with old stuff for fun since u have codes and descriptions of old patches done.
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2013, 09:52:02 am »

Hi, and nice to see server up again, but...

am I understanding you correctly to be saying that if more money (Im hazy on the amount, is it the $54 monthly tab?) does not come in EiR will be done?  Maybe not immediately, but in the near future?

And the options you list, only really make sense if there is some long term solution to the donation problem?

I dont mean to sound gloomy, but just trying to square the tenor of the post with the realistic future of the mod...

thanks.
In short, pretty much.

Without a server, we dont have a mod.  I cant field the cost alone (not that I have, tank130 has been very helpful) and without some sort of quick term solution, I dont see where to go from here.

So yeah, the options are if the server is up.  If its not, well, then there isnt a mod really is there?
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2013, 09:53:32 am »

which option will get done sooner?.
Obviously the first option.

We release an RGD patch, and then the developers basically close shop and leave the server running.

Personally, thats not the option I want, but realistically, if noone is interested in the mod - then thats the way to go (which is why I asked)
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2013, 09:53:56 am »

Hrm?
I'll post some screenshots in a week or so.
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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2013, 09:55:22 am »

Hi,

how about patch first and than money later?
Because Im not going to waste my time if the server goes down?  Quite simply the server *IS* going to go down without change.

So, whether I do anything or not, the issue is still there.
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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2013, 09:56:59 am »

it is still interesting for me but being tricked multiple times with promises makes me and rest of comunyti be a little bit pesimistic about patches tbh. and no tank its not personal insult to devs as u allways take critisism as the end of the world. in fact there are a lot of guys still playing this mod and even more waiting for a patch as a reason to come back.
I dont think this is insulting - its quite true!

Numerous excuses have been made by me in the past, so I completely understand where you're coming from Shab.

I'll see what I can do for an RGD patch Wink
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2013, 09:59:25 am »

Would it be possible to donate without using PayPal? (I don't like places which have my details saved, or make me have to put in a balance to then pay things with).

The new EIRRmod GUI sounds good.
Isnt that the definition of almost any credit-card or online payment service?

Just sayin' Wink

In answer, I dont think so - paypal link is the option we have, and I dont know if you can donate to a paypal via a cred/debit card.
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Shabtajus Offline
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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2013, 10:17:52 am »

I dont think this is insulting - its quite true!

Numerous excuses have been made by me in the past, so I completely understand where you're coming from Shab.

I'll see what I can do for an RGD patch Wink

if donations will keep going on after RGD patch, and u aint be needed pay for server (comunyti will pay) can we expect more patches to come? cuz donations will clearly show if this mod still has a future at least when eirr2 will come.
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« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2013, 11:51:28 am »

Would it be possible to donate without using PayPal? (I don't like places which have my details saved, or make me have to put in a balance to then pay things with).

The new EIRRmod GUI sounds good.

Uh you don't have to do either with pay pal...

I think the full port + fixes would be good
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