PE Player - Counter Sherman Croc/AB Spam

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[ick312]

So Hicks, are you saying that the Churchill armour has no affect on Marders, 50mm, or Paks?

and ick, I have no idea what you are on about there.

THE CHURCHILL ARMOR IS BETTER VS ATGS BY 20%!!!

if you dont believe me:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3cgcJ_NSxU8RERPRXpvZTRVRzQ/edit?usp=sharing

i was comparing the sherman armor vs churchill armor

[tank130]

Well then, the OP was about PE vs AB/Croc spam, so how it affects the pak is kind of irrelevant isn't it?

If it does not affect the 50mm & the Marder, then it's back to trying ti keep the AB at bay.

[ick312]

Well then, the OP was about PE vs AB/Croc spam, so how it affects the pak is kind of irrelevant isn't it?

If it does not affect the 50mm & the Marder, then it's back to trying ti keep the AB at bay.

not going to argue with you. But take a minute and think: Do Whermacht not face AB/croc spam?

@Nightrain if someone claims that the difference between sherman and chuchill armor is mainly its resistance vs HHAT then certain things should be corrected.

About that ATHT - It has another ATG on top: 75% penetration vs sherman/ 47% vs churchill

[NightRain]

not going to argue with you. But take a minute and think: Do Whermacht not face AB/croc spam?

Thread name. Look it up.

50mm does carry the pak gun and its stats, doesn't it? Slower reload ofc. In which case it would affect 50mm's penetration.

[tank130]

Thread name. Look it up.

50mm does carry the pak gun and its stats, doesn't it? Slower reload ofc. In which case it would affect 50mm's penetration.

Good point! I would like to know the answer to that.

[ick312]

Good point! I would like to know the answer to that.

not going to argue with you. But take a minute and think: Do Whermacht not face AB/croc spam?

@Nightrain if someone claims that the difference between sherman and chuchill armor is mainly its resistance vs HHAT then certain things should be corrected.

About that ATHT - It has another ATG on top: 75% penetration vs sherman/ 47% vs churchill

[Hicks58]

The Churchill armour is better vs HHAT for the most part, with a bit better performance vs most brands of tank gun.

Looks technically accurate for me, especially considering I didn't invoke any direct statistics.

[tank130]

Hey guys, with all the quoting and not really straight forward answers, this is more confusing then we started.

Could we just have straight forward answers to the questions please.

[XIIcorps]

Hey guys, with all the quoting and not really straight forward answers, this is more confusing then we started.

Could we just have straight forward answers to the questions please.

indeed.

You know what would be good for a TD counter to ab blobs, the Flammenhetzer

[clonetroopers]

indeed.

You know what would be good for a TD counter to ab blobs, the Flammenhetzer

That would make Terrapin happy, very happy

[terrapinsrock]

That would make Terrapin happy, very happy

YES

I mean comeon if Blitz mod got one working why can't we?

[XIIcorps]

YES

I mean comeon if Blitz mod got one working why can't we?

A lot of mods have a lot of units working that we could use, but evidently apparently new units are badlence.

[Shabtajus]

lol ask flamehetzer as a counter to rrs, hahaha dat hetzer woulda die fast, rrs allways pens hetzers and stugs, unless flame hetzers will go for skirted p4 armor.

AB croc/rr spam aint dat bad ass, just L2play instead of asking new units, everytime same shit when some1 invents spam somebody must QQ for nerf. Its not cheffy with Sherman gun where u can claim OP and be right. AB was so shit before and errbody got used to this feeling and sudnelly it became usefull doctrine and QQ started

tipical eirr

[XIIcorps]

lol ask flamehetzer as a counter to rrs, hahaha dat hetzer woulda die fast, rrs allways pens hetzers and stugs, unless flame hetzers will go for skirted p4 armor.

AB croc/rr spam aint dat bad ass, just L2play instead of asking new units, everytime same shit when some1 invents spam somebody must QQ for nerf. Its not cheffy with Sherman gun where u can claim OP and be right. AB was so shit before and errbody got used to this feeling and sudnelly it became usefull doctrine and QQ started

tipical eirr

Not if hetzer be criting like the WASP does.
Diversity is good, as long as we take the time to balance it.

Oh and TANK using tellers like demo charges seems to work too lol.

[terrapinsrock]

lol ask flamehetzer as a counter to rrs, hahaha dat hetzer woulda die fast, rrs allways pens hetzers and stugs, unless flame hetzers will go for skirted p4 armor.

AB croc/rr spam aint dat bad ass, just L2play instead of asking new units, everytime same shit when some1 invents spam somebody must QQ for nerf. Its not cheffy with Sherman gun where u can claim OP and be right. AB was so shit before and errbody got used to this feeling and sudnelly it became usefull doctrine and QQ started

tipical eirr

or it could just be cool to see a Hetzer spew flames?

just saying

[Shabtajus]

or it could just be cool to see a Hetzer spew flames?

just saying

say it to rangers lool or non-AB coys

[terrapinsrock]

say it to rangers lool or non-AB coys

Flames are actually a good counter against Rangers due to the elite armor crits........
 
And zooks (if I remembered correctly, I would need Hicks or someone else to fact check this) aren't that great against Hetzer armor.

[chefarzt]

Just like non-AB.
But yeah, better ask Hix.
Dat terrapin.........

[Hicks58]

And the verdict is...

Bazookas are junk vs Hetzer armour with a 0.253 penetration modifier.

However, due to Hetzer's having low health - high armour, bazookas are still a valid weapon to use purely because a lucky penetration is going to shave off a LOT of health (93.75 damage without doctrine/vet to a 450 health unit), and flanking with a pair of Ranger squads will pretty much leave a Hetzer crippled (But not dead, a fifth hit would be required) in one volley.

[chefarzt]

4 pages of e-peening by theorycrafting and stating the obvious.
Made my day, off to bed.