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tank130 Offline
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« on: January 16, 2014, 10:06:29 pm »

Ladies and gents, it's time for a trip down...........

In the next day or two we are going to disable doctrines. That's right, we are going to go back to the days of old and reminisce about awesome battles fought with non doctrine buffed units. The true test of man and his ability.........



But don't worry, we will bring them back shortly. This is a test to analyze the state of balance without doctrines. From there we may or may not test doctrines one tier at a time. We will see how it goes. The most important data for now is to determine if vanilla units are balanced.

Bottom unlocks will still be available.

After this test period, we will have a new launcher update and a complete wipe & war reset.

Play them like you stole them people!!
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2014, 10:41:15 pm »

yes i cant wait to see pgren blobs vs vanilla rifle blobs. gunna be so even.
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2014, 11:13:04 pm »

yes i cant wait to see pgren blobs vs vanilla rifle blobs. gunna be so even.

Its not Pgren blobs you'll be afraid of.

It'll be the WM Grenadier blobs that shall tremble your world. Allied LV Meta is coming.
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2014, 11:15:25 pm »

No TB Pgrens to ruin my Churchill armor
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2014, 02:28:16 am »

Allied LV Meta is coming.

Which will be interesting to see without a mother-load of Armour or RCA or RSE doctrines buffing the crap out of it.
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2014, 05:25:57 am »

Which will be interesting to see without a mother-load of Armour or RCA or RSE doctrines buffing the crap out of it.
RSE buffing lvs Huh Oh no +75hp look out boys

Tbh we need to strip RCA buffing the shit outa everything
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2014, 05:42:41 am »

Tbh we need to strip RCA buffing the shit outa everything

+1

RCA is superior to everything else British offer. They got Arty, they got INFANTRY, they got ARMOR all in one doctrine. RSE's abilities are crap in comparison, Commandos only have mando Ltd which makes it hilarious while RCA has everything. Why do we buff Canada so much?

All Canadian Devs report out to apologize this incident immediately.
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2014, 06:47:04 am »

yo mang, how many people still play this ive broken my heel and have spare time and might play coh/eir again lewl
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2014, 07:02:14 am »

yo mang, how many people still play this ive broken my heel and have spare time and might play coh/eir again lewl

u suck, go russia better, we need not bad mans here.
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2014, 07:03:47 am »

u suck, go russia better, we need not bad mans here.

wow so doge

pls not send me

its good

so much

Devedit: Nice to see you back, now knock it off......
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2014, 11:59:27 am »

complete wipe

What about the gold people have? All deleted or get to keep it?
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2014, 12:11:18 pm »

What about the gold people have? All deleted or get to keep it?

Wipe is wipe
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2014, 12:25:38 pm »

What about the gold people have? All deleted or get to keep it?

I think a wipe should be a wipe tbh. Kind of pointless to have a wipe and everyone just have what they had before the wipe......

But the reality is there will probably be so much QQ that the gold will stay. I have 1978 gold and could not give a shit if it goes.
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2014, 12:30:56 pm »

im still owed gold and rewards units from years ago. broken promises mang
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2014, 12:31:41 pm »

yup..... gonna stay broken. Need a hug?
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« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2014, 08:46:34 pm »

What about the gold people have? All deleted or get to keep it?
Gold will be persistant, and we should decide about cards.

I think cards and gold, because then there can be reward cards given out at the end of each war for players (Like medals I guess)
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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2014, 10:07:36 pm »

Wipe must be wipe. Lol whats the point of leaving a gold? How many qq were after facing rew units wth ganila coys? Ya leave gold errbody insta buys pack boosts after wipe lol. After total wipe decide what politic will be in the future. I think its goid idea for u guys make new rules and what will be allowed to the next war. But this wipe must be total wipe
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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2014, 11:09:55 pm »

Wipe must be wipe. Lol whats the point of leaving a gold? How many qq were after facing rew units wth ganila coys? Ya leave gold errbody insta buys pack boosts after wipe lol. After total wipe decide what politic will be in the future. I think its goid idea for u guys make new rules and what will be allowed to the next war. But this wipe must be total wipe
the only units I forsee being OP in a nilla environment are the Maus, JT and SP.
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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2014, 02:45:21 am »

Any heavy will wreak havoc in the beginning days.

I've got 2 vet 2 TA's, a vet 2 SP, a vet 3 Lee and a few other reward units lying around, 2 pages worth of reward unit cards unopened and over 2k gold in the bank.

I want a full wipe. If I can bring that kind of fire power to the field on my first match then I truly feel sorry for the poor unsuspecting bastard on the receiving end.

EDIT:

Oh, and when this does hit, I encourage anybody and everybody to post as many replays as possible. I'll be compiling as thorough documentation as I can onto the performance of literally every unit in every doctrine that I can. I'll be playing every doctrine throughout this period and employing every unit to some degree. Being one person, I can only personally cover so much, and will appreciate any replays that I can analyse during the period to help accelerate the process. Fair games with equal skill distribution would obviously be preferred, but even the stomps, stacks and trolls can be insightful.

If people put up some truly fair and solid games which I can use, I might see if I can pull some strings for some rewards to the participants. Nothing major, but a few incentives. IE, somebody shows me the MK VI Churchill being actually competent against decent players whereas everybody is convinced it's a bag of crap... That kinda thing is what I'm looking for. Conversely, if something that is normally rape-face is actually trash without doctrines, I want to see that too.
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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2014, 09:05:41 am »

Cutting out reward units in "This case" would be a mistake in my honest opinion, it is already planned that every time the warmap resets you get to keep gold and cards (under current idea) and I see no reason we should be doint it differently this time around specifically, reward units will always be around in the earlygame later on and it would actually be a bad test if we left them out this time around. If some reward units are simply "to strong" in an environment without doctrines then that's something we should probably need to know and adress.

Finally, it would be equally good to test reward units in a non doctrine environment for the same exact reason you'd like to do this for regular units. Some reward units get massively buffed by doctrines, I'm quite sure nobody here has actually even seen a non-doctrinal maus, the maus most of us know is a lightning was buffed one. There would also be a massive difference it the performance of a TA without doctrines given how much of an accuarcy buff it's given between PA and HEAT, sane goes for the Super Pershing without armor's repair abilites.

No veterans would be kept btw, any current reward unit in a company would be wiped (my poor marines) to my understanding so you'd still be starting with vet 0 units.

Anyway, my 02.
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