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aeroblade56 Offline
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« on: June 17, 2014, 12:30:33 pm »

US armor T2 white Phosphorus strike doesn't do anything its still as bad as before.
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2014, 12:45:03 pm »

US armor T2 white Phosphorus strike doesn't do anything its still as bad as before.

Slows down, bonus received accuracy. It does a lot.
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2014, 02:12:58 pm »

Its similar effects to mustard gas.
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2014, 02:24:18 pm »

Slows down, bonus received accuracy. It does a lot.

but arent allies affected by it aswell?.
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2014, 02:27:00 pm »

but arent allies affected by it aswell?.
yes, mustard gas also effects allies and your own troops unless you pick that unlock.

Great area denial offmap.
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2014, 06:55:05 pm »

except for the part where mustard gas is from a mortar or nebel, and WP is what? 2 uses offmap? Its shit, always has been shit.
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2014, 08:28:04 pm »

except for the part where mustard gas is from a mortar or nebel, and WP is what? 2 uses offmap? Its shit, always has been shit.
granted it could have more uses or cost less sp.
But it benefits from being an offmap, freeing up munis and pop.
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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2014, 11:01:13 am »

It's a broken ability, should just replace it with something useful that applies to armor doctrine. An airplane offmap that deals damage to infantry does not have much to do with the doctrine. The ability should be based around using tanks/vehicles or taking out AT-guns like the Blitzkrieg and RE abilities.

I have a few suggestions:

Spare Parts - Adds an extra repair to all vehicles on the field
T40 Calliopes - Calliope can  purchase main gun (+6 pop)
Tank Commanders - Tanks gain 2x LOS for (60s/90s cooldown)
Superior Firepower - Can purchase Recoilless Rifle Jeeps (170 mp 100 fuel) and Sherman Tulip (300 mp 320 fuel)
Suppressive Fire - Sherman .50 Cal can purchase suppressive fire (35 MU)
Repair Pioneers - Tanks repair 20% faster (60s/90s cooldown)
240mm howitzer - Fires a large shell capable of decrewing support weapons
Radio Intercept - Shows the location of all enemy units on minimap (60s/90s cooldown)
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2014, 11:11:00 am »

Sherman Tulip (300 mp 320 fuel)
Sherman .50 Cal can purchase suppressive fire (35 MU)
Radio Intercept - Shows the location of all enemy units on minimap (60s/90s cooldown)


No.
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2014, 05:06:10 pm »

It's a broken ability, should just replace it with something useful that applies to armor doctrine. An airplane offmap that deals damage to infantry does not have much to do with the doctrine. The ability should be based around using tanks/vehicles or taking out AT-guns like the Blitzkrieg and RE abilities.

I have a few suggestions:

Spare Parts - Adds an extra repair to all vehicles on the field
T40 Calliopes - Calliope can  purchase main gun (+6 pop)
Tank Commanders - Tanks gain 2x LOS for (60s/90s cooldown)
Superior Firepower - Can purchase Recoilless Rifle Jeeps (170 mp 100 fuel) and Sherman Tulip (300 mp 320 fuel)
Suppressive Fire - Sherman .50 Cal can purchase suppressive fire (35 MU)
Repair Pioneers - Tanks repair 20% faster (60s/90s cooldown)
240mm howitzer - Fires a large shell capable of decrewing support weapons
Radio Intercept - Shows the location of all enemy units on minimap (60s/90s cooldown)

It slows and damages inf and support weapons, how does it not fit armor doc ?.
Vechs are unaffected by it thus giving vech heavy builds an advantage.
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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2014, 01:57:04 am »

The biggest problem with the White Phosphorus off-map is that I have no idea what it does. Seriously, the doctrine screen just says it's an "anti-infantry" off-map, with no more explanation.
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2014, 04:03:13 am »

The biggest problem with the White Phosphorus off-map is that I have no idea what it does. Seriously, the doctrine screen just says it's an "anti-infantry" off-map, with no more explanation.

That is how it works, it pops smokes that slow and damage infantry that are within its effective radius. It never claims to be anything else.
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2014, 04:32:18 am »

That is how it works, it pops smokes that slow and damage infantry that are within its effective radius. It never claims to be anything else.
the projectiles fired from the plane also dmg units.
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2014, 05:56:39 am »

it pops smokes that slow and damage infantry that are within its effective radius. It never claims to be anything else.
It never even claims to be this, so that's for filling me in.
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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2014, 06:36:05 am »

It never even claims to be this, so that's for filling me in.

Does it say "Anti infantry"?
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aeroblade56 Offline
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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2014, 09:33:41 am »

it aint gunna damage infantry in a timely manner thats for sure.
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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2014, 09:49:08 am »

You know they could just up the damage on the DoT of the smoke and it'd be more useful.

It actually has a pretty nice dispersal and enters in a timely manner.
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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2014, 03:33:18 pm »

Right now I feel like the phosphorus off-map is actually how every off-map arty should be: deadly only if you let it hit you with full effect, easy to avoid if you're paying any attention, and more effective as an area-denial tool than an instant MURDER ALL OF YOUR SHIT button. Of course that means that compared to all the insanely OP arty in the game, it's severely lacking,
especially compared to it's main competitor, Precision Strike.
Does it say "Anti infantry"?
Yes, but it doesn't say anything like "creates clouds of white phosphorus smoke that slow the enemy and cause damage over time, while creating smoke cover." That's some pretty key info it's lacking.
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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2014, 04:12:20 pm »

I'm not sure if it actually provides smoke cover.

I'm fairly sure that it doesn't, but I'd have to check. I'll check it later if nobody beats me to the punch.
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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2014, 04:22:45 pm »

I'm not sure if it actually provides smoke cover.

I'm fairly sure that it doesn't, but I'd have to check. I'll check it later if nobody beats me to the punch.
Well then that's really dumb. As it stands, it's only real use it is to scare the Axis player into relocating their defenses, and providing smoke cover as you advance. If it doesn't even do that, then yeah, it's pretty weaksauce compared to everything else out there.
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