nikomas
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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2014, 06:58:56 pm » |
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They're getting buffed, that one has been decided way back when... whenever that patch actually happens.
Likely some form of returning the old combat cloak iirc, been a while since it was mentioned.
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"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing—after they've tried everything else." The officer is considerably better than a riflemen squad at carrying weapons. Officers have good accuracy so they will hit most targets. |
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Smokaz
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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2014, 07:08:28 pm » |
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Uh, no?
Where the hell did you get that piece of misinformation?
25% accuracy and 25% damage is NOT suck ass.
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nikomas
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« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2014, 07:48:57 pm » |
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Well they still have that ambush bonus, just that their ambush sucks in all the other regards.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2014, 08:01:26 pm » |
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I've never thought the ambush on FSJ with fg42s was any good. At that range they are grenade or flamer food anyway. At long I dont see how the accuracy is beneficial to them.
And if you think allies are that stupid that they will sit under sustained recloaking fsj fire if they dont have to, well..
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XIIcorps
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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2014, 12:32:36 am » |
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I've never thought the ambush on FSJ with fg42s was any good. At that range they are grenade or flamer food anyway. At long I dont see how the accuracy is beneficial to them.
And if you think allies are that stupid that they will sit under sustained recloaking fsj fire if they dont have to, well..
How is +25% acc over all not a good thing, it means you dont have to get into short range as often to still dish out excellent DPS. And the ambush thing is a catch 22 when you catch a player, they A) have to continue the assault they have started under heavy and accurate fire OR B) Retreat whilst under accurate and heavy fire taking losses with little to no gain. Why tho are we trying to make FJ's mainline inf ? 5 man Pgrens are damn fine, especailly with 5x G43's |
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« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2014, 02:15:18 am » |
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What rifles do FJ have anyway? Volksgrenadiers? If so that 25% acc and damage wont be too noticeable. They'd simply be grenadier rifles with ambush bonus, whoopee totally worth the manpower cost.
If they are stormtrooper rifles then we're talking about something but wont mention it too much.
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2014, 02:28:33 am » |
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I think they just have the standard PE. 12 damage, vs the volks 10 damage.
so they dont have volks rifles.
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XIIcorps
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« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2014, 02:51:11 am » |
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What rifles do FJ have anyway? Volksgrenadiers? If so that 25% acc and damage wont be too noticeable. They'd simply be grenadier rifles with ambush bonus, whoopee totally worth the manpower cost.
If they are stormtrooper rifles then we're talking about something but wont mention it too much.
Opposed to say Mandos with the "greatest" rifle in the game, the Enfail. How are unstenned or even stenned mandos worth their cost ? Its far more effiecient to use piats and nades on that platform for their cost. If your going to take FJ's without FG42's, you may aswell take IST's without Skirts or Panthers without repairs. |
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« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2014, 03:51:25 am » |
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Grenadier rifles huh. According to old patch notes. Unless they've changed them along the run I wouldn't know.
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nikomas
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« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2014, 06:52:37 am » |
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Grenadier rifles huh. According to old patch notes. Unless they've changed them along the run I wouldn't know.
Could just open the ebps and check the weapon hardpoint... You'd see it carried they carry the PE_FJ rifle, it'd identical to the PE rifle. So, standard PE rifles in other words. |
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Hicks58
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« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2014, 07:31:15 am » |
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...They'd simply be grenadier rifles...
...If they are stormtrooper rifles...
Grenadier and Stormtrooper rifles are the exact same thing, they both use the Stormtrooper K98k entry. |
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I mean I know Obama was the first one in EiR to get a card. and tbfh the Race card is pretty OP. but Romney has the K.K.K., those guys seem to camo anywhere. So OP units from both sides.
At the end of the day, however, stormtroopers finally got the anal invasion with a cactus they have richly deserved for years.
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« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2014, 08:23:16 am » |
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So what's the Panzergrenadier Rifle like? The last time I checked it it was pretty much like a volksgrenadier rifle. Grenadier and Stormtrooper rifles are the exact same thing, they both use the Stormtrooper K98k entry.
I know that hicks I know they are the same rifle. |
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nikomas
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« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2014, 08:34:24 am » |
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Volks rifles are worse.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2014, 02:58:02 pm » |
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pe kar 98 good vs rifles tbh
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nikomas
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« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2014, 04:52:15 pm » |
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PE vs WM - better close range cooldown, worse long range cooldown. More damage. Higher nearby suppression modifier. More accurate versus Infantry armour, and more damage versus Soldier armour. Worse fire cone angle.
Slightly better than junk is still pretty bad |
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