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[rolcsika0128]

Is there any way to make this poor unit at least semi-useful?


I mean, in the current meta-game it is completely outgunned, outflanked, outrun and raped all the time in every possible way. Sure its armor is bouncy, but even a non-pen atg hit will reduce its health by a considerable amount...
In all honesty, I can't think of a role which STuG could currently play in a company and it makes me sad.
Any thoughts?

[Korpisolttu]

Maybe? Small accuracy puff could do it for first? (give a >small< puff for hezers aswell so you would see people using dat underused unit aswell)

[aeroblade56]

Is there any way to make this poor unit at least semi-useful?


I mean, in the current meta-game it is completely outgunned, outflanked, outrun and raped all the time in every possible way. Sure its armor is bouncy, but even a non-pen atg hit will reduce its health by a considerable amount...
In all honesty, I can't think of a role which STuG could currently play in a company and it makes me sad.
Any thoughts?

its a cheap mid tier unit.

its got the best axis MG.
It has silly modifiers vs sherman.

87 damage for the base gun with no doctrine buffs. with a 1.5 damage mod towards shermans/fireflies (not sure if it works for jumbo should).

So your 87 damage goes( i think) 130.5 damage a shot. now with the vet 3 i think its around 150 damage.

if we wanted to go farther and add heat i think it should be around 180 damage a shot(probably wrong seems freakishly high)
It has 1.25 damage mod towards m10s, and greyhounds(wtf).

Don't forgot the stug cost 8 pop with is pretty amazing on a tank that will hit infantry well enough and has a sweet MG. and cost less than a ostwind(MP wise).

your biggest problem right now is probably the current Meta.

the stug does have low health (400 i think).   you could raise the health to 500( m10) and raise the price to around 175 and w skirts make them cost 200 fuel.

[Tachibana]

Stug fine as is.

[GrayWolf]

I'm running vet 3 stug (It bounces off pershing shots lol) in my defensive company. It literally has no buffs and it's fine. Like Area said with vet 3, it gives a lot of pounding to sherman tanks.

I do agree on the HP and price increase.

[aeroblade56]

If u raise the price axis wont have any mid/lower tier units to clog the gap

so you end with a 200 fuel stug and a 175 ostwind and a 80 fuel puma.

like the cromwell200 then stuart90 then stag 100

so what your missing is kinda that one unit that is in the middle.

[rolcsika0128]

Stug fine as is.

You can't say something is fine if it is clearly under-represented in axis companies. There has to be a reason for that imo.

its a cheap mid tier unit.

its got the best axis MG.
It has silly modifiers vs sherman.

87 damage for the base gun with no doctrine buffs. with a 1.5 damage mod towards shermans/fireflies (not sure if it works for jumbo should).

So your 87 damage goes( i think) 130.5 damage a shot. now with the vet 3 i think its around 150 damage.

if we wanted to go farther and add heat i think it should be around 180 damage a shot(probably wrong seems freakishly high)
It has 1.25 damage mod towards m10s, and greyhounds(wtf).

Don't forgot the stug cost 8 pop with is pretty amazing on a tank that will hit infantry well enough and has a sweet MG. and cost less than a ostwind(MP wise).

your biggest problem right now is probably the current Meta.

the stug does have low health (400 i think).   you could raise the health to 500( m10) and raise the price to around 175 and w skirts make them cost 200 fuel.

I know that its stats are pretty good (armor, modifiers, top MG), but the unit still feels weak. I agree that it is probably the direct result of the meta-game.


I could live with an experimental HP and price increase too. Just to see what happens.

[Hicks58]

You can't say something is fine if it is clearly under-represented in axis companies. There has to be a reason for that imo.

StuG's fine, just a victim of current meta not suiting it. It was already buffed to shit with the range increase and the pop reduction - And it was a viable unit even before.