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Author Topic: Quad and M10 spam  (Read 13038 times)
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Nachbar Offline
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« Reply #40 on: June 06, 2008, 11:05:29 am »

Haha yeah, he blocked his teammate from being able to play until it gets force-reported. I am not even sure what to say about that Tongue. Undecided
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Novox Offline
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« Reply #41 on: June 06, 2008, 11:06:14 am »


Erm how about they abandon & therefore leave the game, & stop using cheap ass tactics to win & try developing a level of skill slightly higher than a Banzai charge at the entry point.
We get a higher win percentage playing 'normally' than with this style, so we are certainly not using this as "cheap ass tactics to win".

We do this for several reasons:
  • The same old mortar vs mortar game is boring
  • Defending 'normally' forces you into that.
  • This strat gives a welcome change to those stale old tactics.
  • Presenting people with a strategy that is different from what you see all day can be refreshing, inspiring to think differently, or at least keeps them on their toes.
  • This strat is very easy to counter, all you need to do is see what we do and adapt to it. Picking the right units to call in and micro'ing them with "a level of skill slightly higher than a Banzai"-tree will make sure we have to work VERY hard and have a very large chance to lose because of the 'one sidedness' of this company. The problem of most people who lose is they are stuck in the only playing-routine they know. Or simply do nothing other than whine when presented with a surprise.

Also, we do not vet hunt. The units we use are very fragile and the gameplay weird. When we lose, we lose badly and have a very empty company left after that game. So that is the reason you see us with practically no veterancy. If we are playing a game and have units on the field, and you bring units on the field, we attack those units. Those units may have vet. Should we not shoot them, because it makes you think we vet hunt? And of course we chase them off-map, you know how fast 2 repair bunkers and a pioneer can fix units. It's war game, it's fun to shoot stuff, especially if that unit shot our own stuff a few seconds before.

The problem is, any company type taken to an extreme is really tough to beat with a balanced company.
Correct, in some ways. But often also very easy to beat if you do the right thing. Because in a lot of cases, since the enemy is very one-sided, countering them will counter them REAL HARD. Be cautious with your hard counter to whatever is being spammed and don't give it away. If you give us your PAKs and Shrecks it becomes tough to beat us, since we normally lack anti-tank the most in the end of a game. If you see M10s and Quads but you keep calling in MGs and Mortars it is obviously tough to beat that company.

If you use any of the in this topic explained counter-tactics, you beat us. Keep your tank near an AT gun. Keep a Shreck near a lone AT. All very easy and something that should also generally be done in an average EiR game, even tho you may not often fight people of the skill level you need it against (yes, skill level, not spam, someone micro'ing a single unit extremely well can give you a hell of a time).

Well said. The tactic that they decide to use, has a major risk factor to it. 1 Pak gun, could probably shut down and m3 and m10 activity in a area. Any Shrekies nearby the pak would shut down their entire armor force, unless they decide to risk all their m8's. In other words, they are spending around [(260mp, 210mu,80fuel)x4] (For Example), to take out a simple force of 1 pak and 1 dual shreki squad. Not to mention, they have a very limiting a mount of m8's/m10's/m3's, and repair rates encourage retreating 1 and bringing out a replacement. And i swear, ostwinds rape m8's and m3's in seconds. Keep a pak nearby / gren against those nasty m10's.

In theory, a specialised company receives a greater reward, but at the same time, suffers a greater risk. An all balanced company will have a harder time to win, but then again, you can counter anything. Problem is, you only have small amounts of each, therefore you must keep ur units alive. Its just a play style. Think about it. Its logical.
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Nachbar Offline
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« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2008, 11:11:36 am »

In other words, they are spending around [(260mp, 210mu,80fuel)x4] (For Example), to take out a simple force of 1 pak
Not to mention being able to reman the PAK twice for the cost of a volksgrenadier squad Smiley. One team that really kicked our ass I believe did not do very special things, did not need to play like the best players around, but all they did is keep remanning their PAKs. We lost.
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Wolster2 Offline
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« Reply #43 on: June 06, 2008, 11:29:51 am »

If yr that desparate to play I suggest abandon, cya im off out for tonight. Appologies Garcia, its not yr fault & im sorry you got caught in the crossfire. End of discussion.

Ive not got into 1 of these types of flames b4, but if my reputation is gonna get dragged through the mud, all those companies can get locked in battle till hell freezes over. Besides dont even try to tell me I am the 1st upset customer of the spam service, & as to all that long post from Nacho, what a load of Horse shit about repair bunkers & rubbish (seriously could u see the repair bunker at the spawn point because that how far my men entered the map).
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Noodles Offline
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« Reply #44 on: June 06, 2008, 12:23:20 pm »

So they used a tactic you couldn't counter and you whine like a baby, nice.  Most spammers lose terribly, the only ones who win consistently are players who are good regardless of spam or not.
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jjwajjwa Offline
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« Reply #45 on: June 06, 2008, 12:59:21 pm »

Wolster made the game auto-abandon...
After (or before) he ALT-F4'd out of the game he chose to press Abandon. My teammate and I pressed Force Report (we both forced the same report, that of my teammate). I thought that would auto-force, but it actually got auto-abandoned after the time it takes to wait for it to auto-something. I never knew it's that easy to have a game cancelled where no problems, bugs, disconnections, cheats or exploits (other than the ALT-F4) happened. He can bitch all he want, he can make posts, he can keep our companies engaged for hours, but even without caring about the actual results of the game, this is a very lame thing to do.
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GenericNameAxis Offline
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« Reply #46 on: June 06, 2008, 03:05:44 pm »

This community is really going to shit.
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« Reply #47 on: June 06, 2008, 03:11:15 pm »

Witch is like saying "this apple tree is shit, look there is one rotten apple on the ground near it, while the others are made out of pure gold"
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« Reply #48 on: June 06, 2008, 03:11:57 pm »

golden apples would still taste shitty, and probably cause some sort of health problem.
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puddin Offline
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« Reply #49 on: June 06, 2008, 03:13:02 pm »

I lvoe these guys, They presented a fully mobil american blitz tacktic, and own with it, But guess what, call out early armor and such to combat them, and they die.... 

They have very few other thigns besides it.

Me and donnie played them twice.  In a row, first time, we sad shit and grated them on an awsome game. 

I lvoe these guys.  New strats.

Its called a real time strategy... They come up with new strats... Can;t blame them.
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Puddin' spamtm
i cant really blame smokaz i mean playing against puddin is like trying to fight off breast cancer. You might win and do it and be a bad ass but you'll feel sick and mutilated forever.

Puddin' spamtm is soulcrushing... what's hard to understand about that?
AceOfWar Offline
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« Reply #50 on: January 21, 2009, 10:40:37 pm »

Thank you for the compliment!
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Brigader Offline
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« Reply #51 on: January 21, 2009, 11:00:18 pm »

Im fuking sick of axis.
75% of their company they have an advantage over allies and for the things that we actually DO have, they whine whine whine "nerf" "nerf" "nerf"

spams, jeeps>bikes, arty..

Spams aren't noob, its one of the only things allies do have..
and if you can't beat 1 your the fuking noob.

GG
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« Reply #52 on: January 21, 2009, 11:01:34 pm »

This topic was bumped from 6 months ago, needs to die.
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