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Quote from: Malgoroth on October 10, 2011, 05:03:49 pm

« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2009, 02:27:58 pm »

ToV units would fit just fine in EIRR, it's just about pricing it right, no big deal. Let's say that the T17 is some gift from heaven unit, just make it the cost of a sherman. why does everyone make such a big deal over the units in ToV.


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Quote from: jackmccrack on May 27, 2009, 02:23:16 pm

« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2009, 02:28:15 pm »

I payed money for these new units. I would like to use them in EIRR.

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Quote from: Unkn0wn on July 31, 2012, 03:50:15 am

« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2009, 03:22:31 pm »

I say make the T17 the same cost as an ostwind. It's basically a faster light vehicle ostwind


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« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2009, 03:35:58 pm »

Quote from: brn4meplz on April 18, 2013, 01:23:05 am

I say make the T17 the same cost as an ostwind. It's basically a faster light vehicle ostwind

yeah, but the ost doesn´t die to a double zook/rr squad, the t17 will always be killed by 2 fausts or 1 schreck squad.


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« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2009, 03:42:23 pm »

I say make the T17 the same cost as an ostwind. It's basically a faster light vehicle ostwind

T17 has 175 hp.

Let me repeat that, it has 175 hp.

Ostwind kills better than T17 anyways, ostwind has splash, T17 doesnt.


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« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2009, 03:51:08 pm »

I've been playing with the staghound today actually. It rapes like no other. And it can kite in such an effective manner schreks cant touch it. Speed makes sure you avoid paks. One shot and you get an idea where pak is, then 10 sec later pak is dead. I do admitt it is kinda op lol.
If you liked acs killer youre gonna love these.


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Quote from: Schultz on May 27, 2009, 03:51:08 pm

« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2009, 03:53:30 pm »

Units that rape in vCoH doesn't necessarily translate well to EIR.


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« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2009, 04:48:42 pm »

AC's rape in Vcoh... that translated pretty good to here especially with the Puma buff.
(Ac's were fantastic killing machines before the puma buff, it just made them live longer)


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Quote from: brn4meplz on May 27, 2009, 04:48:42 pm

« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2009, 05:11:53 pm »

AC's rape in Vcoh... that translated pretty good to here especially with the Puma buff.
(Ac's were fantastic killing machines before the puma buff, it just made them live longer)

ACs without burst bug and no puma armor does NOT rape.


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« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2009, 05:23:08 pm »

I say make the T17 the same cost as an ostwind. It's basically a faster light vehicle ostwind

yeah, but the ost doesn´t die to a double zook/rr squad, the t17 will always be killed by 2 fausts or 1 schreck squad.

Problem is that the T17 will beat an Ostwind every time.


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« Reply #30 on: May 27, 2009, 05:28:15 pm »

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Quote from: Illegal_Carrot on May 27, 2009, 05:23:08 pm

« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2009, 05:37:45 pm »

I say make the T17 the same cost as an ostwind. It's basically a faster light vehicle ostwind

yeah, but the ost doesn´t die to a double zook/rr squad, the t17 will always be killed by 2 fausts or 1 schreck squad.

Problem is that the T17 will beat an Ostwind every time.

What kind of crack are you smoking?


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Quote from: gamesguy2 on May 27, 2009, 05:37:45 pm

« Reply #32 on: May 27, 2009, 06:06:50 pm »

Quote from: Illegal_Carrot on May 27, 2009, 05:23:08 pm

I say make the T17 the same cost as an ostwind. It's basically a faster light vehicle ostwind

yeah, but the ost doesn´t die to a double zook/rr squad, the t17 will always be killed by 2 fausts or 1 schreck squad.

Problem is that the T17 will beat an Ostwind every time.

What kind of crack are you smoking?

I have CoH replays I can post if you'd like.
My T17 get 'fausted and shot in the rear & side by an Ostwind. The T17 then turns around and kills the Ost, then proceeds to rape the nearby Volks.
I've tried it multiple times, and the T17 beats an Ost easy 1v1.


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« Reply #33 on: May 27, 2009, 06:10:18 pm »

It wholly depends on the T17s vet level. A vet 1 T17 gains much more HP.


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Quote from: Illegal_Carrot on May 27, 2009, 06:06:50 pm

« Reply #34 on: May 27, 2009, 06:27:35 pm »

Quote from: gamesguy2 on May 27, 2009, 05:37:45 pm

Quote from: Illegal_Carrot on May 27, 2009, 05:23:08 pm

I say make the T17 the same cost as an ostwind. It's basically a faster light vehicle ostwind

yeah, but the ost doesn´t die to a double zook/rr squad, the t17 will always be killed by 2 fausts or 1 schreck squad.

Problem is that the T17 will beat an Ostwind every time.

What kind of crack are you smoking?

Vet1 T17 has double the hp.

Also, yes I'd like to see the replay. A stationary ostwind should almost always beat a T17, even skirted.


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Quote from: gamesguy2 on May 27, 2009, 06:27:35 pm

« Reply #35 on: May 27, 2009, 06:54:24 pm »

Vet1 T17 has double the hp.

Also, yes I'd like to see the replay. A stationary ostwind should almost always beat a T17, even skirted.

I just watched the replay, and it gets a sync error about 10 minutes in. Embarrassed

I can post the replay, anyways, as some sort of quasi-proof, if you'd like, and I'll be doing some T17 vs Ostwind testing later to make up for it.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the T17 was Vet 1, but is that any sort of reason for an M8 equivalent unit to beat an Ost?


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Quote from: Illegal_Carrot on May 27, 2009, 06:54:24 pm

« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2009, 07:24:45 pm »

I just watched the replay, and it gets a sync error about 10 minutes in. Embarrassed

I can post the replay, anyways, as some sort of quasi-proof, if you'd like, and I'll be doing some T17 vs Ostwind testing later to make up for it.

Convenient. I don't believe you until I see a replay.

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure the T17 was Vet 1, but is that any sort of reason for an M8 equivalent unit to beat an Ost?

That yet remains to be seen.


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« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2009, 08:07:32 pm »

silly noobies, wasting your money on ToV xP the only thing that will get me into getting ToV is if EiRR goes ToV till than, im happy how EiRR is.


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« Reply #38 on: May 27, 2009, 09:48:22 pm »

Alright, this should be the game Blitzen and I just played.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NUHLGVLY
I didn't really micro well, but T17 will beat an Ostwind of equal vet with great consistency. Just park them face to face, and the T17 will win.


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