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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2011, 12:09:16 pm »

but don'T forget to remove snipers being healed by triage ccs or airborne medics then too

they are fine with their medpacks, i mean, they don't even need them since they get heal at vet 1. If anything you'd want to take their heal away at vet one.

buttttttt i think both snipers are fine.
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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2011, 12:42:57 pm »

imo wm sniper is far superior to us. It gets health regen AND a medkit! faster rof is traded for worse accuracy.
the wm and US sniper have the exact same accuracy.
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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2011, 12:48:42 pm »

the wm and US sniper have the exact same accuracy.


oh, do they have different damage or something? is there any difference other than rof?
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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2011, 12:53:58 pm »

oh, do they have different damage or something? is there any difference other than rof?
the wehr sniper deal less damage (65 vs 45), but you wouldn't notice except for certain enemy since both sniper kill by crit.
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« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2011, 01:13:49 pm »

so, basically the wm sniper is superior.
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« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2011, 01:17:12 pm »

so, basically the wm sniper is superior.

Correct
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« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2011, 01:18:38 pm »

think of the WM sniper as a battlefield marksman.

the American one is more like an actual sniper

Theres more Axis Snipers in the game.

I myself have not used Americans snipers with any serious intent in ages simply because theres usually better stuff to go in my company. Of course the game does function in cycles and if the pattern holds we should see a whole lot more allied snipers in about 2 months.(this thread may skew the timing)

EDIT: Also, yes, the Vampire HT is the best Anti-Sniper utility in the game. Detect range of 30 and awareness of more then double that. No where to hide for that bastard
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« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2011, 02:47:18 pm »

give us sniper +5 range and i feel that'd be justified. it wont make too much of a difference in some ways but u can take out the wm sniper from a range it can't hit u back
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« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2011, 02:54:17 pm »

Giving the US Sniper extra range is not the answer to the discrepancy between the two Snipers.

In fact, the Snipers have been this way for years and there have been no viable complaints or reasoning for a massive change in either Sniper.

I've used both Snipers, I've had 30+ kills on a single Sniper from either side.

Is there any particular reason that base parts of EiRR are starting to be looked at and potentially shook up all of a sudden?
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« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2011, 03:03:19 pm »

Giving the US Sniper extra range is not the answer to the discrepancy between the two Snipers.

In fact, the Snipers have been this way for years and there have been no viable complaints or reasoning for a massive change in either Sniper.

I've used both Snipers, I've had 30+ kills on a single Sniper from either side.

Is there any particular reason that base parts of EiRR are starting to be looked at and potentially shook up all of a sudden?

It's the "I play team x so team y is OP" syndrome.
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« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2011, 03:48:28 pm »

Extra range on the US sniper... *nuclear facepalm*
I sincerely hope that wasn't a serious idea.

ugh

Anyhow... the American sniper is going to be inherently more useful since the majority of what it faces are 4 man squads which will get retreated sooner than the allies 5-6 man squads, but this doesn't mean the Axis sniper needs any more buffs to compensate. As people have already pointed out, health regen and access to health packs are significant abilities to have handy on a unit like that.

The Axis sniper just needs to be used differently than it's allied counterpart. Hunt squads who are already low on men to "finish them off" (make them retreat), hunt support weapons, spot for paks/arty. Don't be a dipshit and start shooting at full health BAR riflemen or fire-up rangers and expect to be ok.

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« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2011, 03:51:23 pm »

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« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2011, 05:08:11 pm »

Actually, shooting at a full health BAR squad is rather sensible I find...

Particularly when I have an MG42 just out of that squad's sight range and they come running over like a bunch of seagulls. xD
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« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2011, 05:13:52 pm »

It's strange that the axis sniper is better for the most part, yet is 40mp cheaper.

There have been times where US players run 2x sniper companies and it's pretty effective, haven't seen anyone do that (other than double AB sniper) in some time. I wonder if that means US snipers are less effective (its so easy to clown car them as PE and imo bikes kill better than jeeps) or are allied players just busy doing other things? I rarely see the normal US sniper on the field.
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« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2011, 05:15:50 pm »

killing 4 man worth 240 manpower is easier than killing the 6 worth 200 manpower Tongue
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« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2011, 05:44:12 pm »

you guys still dont get it? Snipers are meant to be anti support weapon units, not anti squad units.

So you base the effectiveness of both snipers based on how fast and how well they take out the opposing teams support units.

and yes, its easier to take out 4 men than 6 BUT how many times does anybody allow that to happen on each side? give me a break...and a 3 man lmg squad is still stronger man vs man than a 5 man bar squad (take out suppression fire ok)
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« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2011, 05:53:56 pm »

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« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2011, 06:07:01 pm »

killing 4 man worth 240 manpower is easier than killing the 6 worth 200 manpower Tongue

Axis sniper doesn't have to worry about armies of sprinting PE troops either
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« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2011, 07:29:08 pm »

snipers are fine as is
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« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2011, 07:43:52 pm »

Axis snipers are horribly useless against that Commandos detection t4 Sad
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