Stummel... any plans to address?

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[Unkn0wn]

Regardless of personal experiences and bias, it's vastly superior to units that perform similar roles (GMC for example) while still being cheaper. I don't think anyone in their right mind can argue that the Stummel can completely stay where it is in its current form. Whether it needs just some minor tweaks or a major overhaul, that is something up for discussion.

I don't normally make public statements in regards to unit balance, but it's clear a lot of people here are letting personal bias cloud their sense of balance.

[MittinsKittens]

I don't normally make public statements in regards to unit balance, but it's clear a lot of people here are letting personal bias cloud their sense of balance.

Meh, I've not seen it much and I've not used it, so I don't really know. From what I saw, I assumed it was a LEIG on wheels. I guess not?

[Sachaztan]

Regardless of personal experiences and bias, it's vastly superior to units that perform similar roles (GMC for example) while still being cheaper. I don't think anyone in their right mind can argue that the Stummel can completely stay where it is in its current form. Whether it needs just some minor tweaks or a major overhaul, that is something up for discussion.

I don't normally make public statements in regards to unit balance, but it's clear a lot of people here are letting personal bias cloud their sense of balance.

I've tried using the GMC and it failed horribly.

Every time I faced the GMC it failed to inflict any noticeable damage and was easily dispatched.

Is the GMC good for anything at all?

[MittinsKittens]

What actually is the GMC's role? I assumed it was an attempt at being PE by putting a ATG on wheels

[Mister Schmidt]

GMC is a mix between a leig and a mortar ht. Much better in pairs than on their own, they can shoot over hedgerows and have a massive splash. EliteGren is highly adept at using them.

[Jodomar]

Yeah, in my opinion the gmc is a bit weak and probably needs a slight buff, where as the stummel is just a tad bit too strong. Don't nerf it to the gmc because that sucks. If it takes two of the same unit for it to be effective then that unit is to weak. Like I said you are going to have to be very careful how you balance the stummle. I think if you made it a tad slower in reverse or slower in general lower its accel/deccel then that would be enough of a nerf to it. The problem is right now it's too fast. You can get away from manpacked AT way to easy.

[smurfORnot]

can I get replay where you use stummel against good players,and it rocks and does shit ton of kills? Cuz I am obviously using mine wrong half of the time.

[Jodomar]

I get round 15-20 kills a stummle unless I get unlucky. I use it to support other players and rarely go off alone with them. That's why I say you need to be really careful how you nerf the stummle, otherwise it will not be worth taking.

[RoyalHants]

I get round 15-20 kills a stummle unless I get unlucky. I use it to support other players and rarely go off alone with them. That's why I say you need to be really careful how you nerf the stummle, otherwise it will not be worth taking.

So yeah it needs to have the arty pathing

[Poppi]

can I get replay where you use stummel against good players,and it rocks and does shit ton of kills? Cuz I am obviously using mine wrong half of the time.

hmm by itself in the lone battlefield ya it will get owned by ATG or m10.... but not RR or zooks. B/c its amazing accuracy, speed, armor, damage to inf will make using any form of inf suicide. People are saying this is only good against noobs.... no its good to use unless your a noob and dont use it as properly.

If it sucks so bad or is not OP.... make GMC equally impressive. Say goodbye to any inf you may have on the field.

[RikiRude]

had one one shot a full health 17 pounder crew today, made me cry inside 

[smurfORnot]

ninja nerf,price rised to 120 fuel

[Hicks58]

Price isn't what needs changing on the Stummel, just change the weapon characteristics and be done with it. >.<

[RikiRude]

Price isn't what needs changing on the Stummel, just change the weapon characteristics and be done with it. >.<

agreed.

[DarkSoldierX]

ninja nerf,price rised to 120 fuel

Yeah, so ninja you can barley see it on the patch notes herpaderpface   

Price isn't what needs changing on the Stummel, just change the weapon characteristics and be done with it. >.<

Gawd facking damn, ever heard of a price change for a temporary fix until next patch when new weapon stats can be uploaded?

[Hicks58]

Honestly, this should have been included in the last patch. The community has pointed it out well before it came out - This 'temporary fix' shouldn't even be necessary.

And yeah, units that can routinely one shot half a rifleman squad at excessive ranges with high mobility IS something that needs to be addressed rather quickly.

DarkSoldier, if your so keen to please the devs, go and learn how to code the RGD's rather than trying to jump to their defense the moment somebody makes a point.

(Oh, btw, I do appreciate the hard works the devs do, but the Stummel fix is a *Wee* bit overdue.)

[AmPM]

Should have just attached a Muni cost to it.

[DarkSoldierX]

I am not keen to please the devs, I am keen to show the truth and nothing but the truth. Its a temporary fix because they forgot it, if your so keen to critizize the missing of a change in a patch, why dont you go ahead and learn how to code the RGD's rather than try to jump up in arms the moment somebody makes a mishap or doesnt have the time to do something.

They clearly said this is getting fixed next patch. There is nothing more to say until this patch is released to re-judge the units effectiveness. Saying the same thing over and over after judgement has been made does nothing.

[puddin]

Honestly, this should have been included in the last patch. The community has pointed it out well before it came out - This 'temporary fix' shouldn't even be necessary.

And yeah, units that can routinely one shot half a rifleman squad at excessive ranges with high mobility IS something that needs to be addressed rather quickly.

DarkSoldier, if your so keen to please the devs, go and learn how to code the RGD's rather than trying to jump to their defense the moment somebody makes a point.

(Oh, btw, I do appreciate the hard works the devs do, but the Stummel fix is a *Wee* bit overdue.)

Hicks with all the shit that was put in.... Your complaining about the 1 they missed... 

FFs, take a damn chill pill.  everything has gotten changes  lately alot more than normal, So probly by the next patch...  But comments lie that make me people not feel appreciated....

" Hey Bitch, i know you fixed these 20 issues... but you missed this one, SUCKKKK IT!!!"

[Unkn0wn]

Yeah, so ninja you can barley see it on the patch notes herpaderpface  

Gawd facking damn, ever heard of a price change for a temporary fix until next patch when new weapon stats can be uploaded?

This man speaks the truth. We only patch rgds on regular time intervals (i.e a monthly schedule, with the exception of urgent hotfixes) so pricing is how we can get by in the meantime. I know it's pretty insignificant, but it's still something and should be an indication for you guys that we have taken note of the issue. I agree perhaps we could have done something about the unit sooner, I guess we must have overlooked it, it happens, we're sorry.

The Stummel WILL be addressed next patch.