Tymathee
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« Reply #60 on: November 08, 2011, 03:46:36 pm » |
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if stummel needs butt, 75mm gmc needs buff, same gun!
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« Reply #61 on: November 08, 2011, 04:02:50 pm » |
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erm,not same gun,since stummel cant hit jack shit,while GMC can actually kill things...I see GMC from time to time,I dont see stummel at all.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #62 on: November 08, 2011, 04:17:06 pm » |
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its not because the stummel is worse, its more survivable because of its phase armor but because there are better AI choices in TD (scout cars of doom with 70 sight) and why have a stummel at all if u ahve a jagd? or even 2 jagds?
sometimes a units use isn't because it's useless but because there are better perceived options.
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« Reply #63 on: November 08, 2011, 04:23:52 pm » |
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what good is survability,when he cant kill jack shit! when little 3 pop scout car(withouth mg!) can do more killing than this useless piece of shit.
why have stummel if you have jagd?! seriously?! jagd is AT and stummel is AI!
How can you have 2 Jagds?!
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Tymathee
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« Reply #64 on: November 08, 2011, 04:41:35 pm » |
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i've seen two jagds by one person...if u have the fuel. only kt is limited to one.
also jagd is good at sniping infanttry and it doesn't matter ifit's AT, a lot of TD players tend to go with jagds and surround it with AI.
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« Reply #65 on: November 08, 2011, 04:44:15 pm » |
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well,surrounding Jagd,who is dedicated AT with AI is rly no brainer.
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Hicks58
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« Reply #66 on: November 08, 2011, 04:45:19 pm » |
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Your limited to a single Jagd per company. Just checked in launcher and it has limit: 1.
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I mean I know Obama was the first one in EiR to get a card. and tbfh the Race card is pretty OP. but Romney has the K.K.K., those guys seem to camo anywhere. So OP units from both sides.
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« Reply #67 on: November 08, 2011, 05:21:43 pm » |
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Stummel is a worthless piece of shit since the nerf and I told you guys that it would become such if drastic measures were taken to nerf it. It wasn't that imba to begin with! All's it needed was it's accel/deccel raised and it would never be able to escape AT weapons but noooooo we needed to throw a huge nerf bat at it to make it completely useless.
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« Reply #68 on: November 08, 2011, 05:24:28 pm » |
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Your limited to a single Jagd per company. Just checked in launcher and it has limit: 1.
NIEN! Used to have Jagdpanther / Jagdtiger coy. And buff strummel plox! In a way that doesn't give it normal ballistics. |
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« Reply #69 on: November 08, 2011, 05:31:35 pm » |
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I am preety much sure,we are talking about JP,since there would be no point in mentioning reward unit in discussion. I mean,why would anyone take Tiger,when you can take Tiger Ace,right?!
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Tymathee
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« Reply #70 on: November 08, 2011, 05:55:32 pm » |
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Stummel is a worthless piece of shit since the nerf and I told you guys that it would become such if drastic measures were taken to nerf it. It wasn't that imba to begin with! All's it needed was it's accel/deccel raised and it would never be able to escape AT weapons but noooooo we needed to throw a huge nerf bat at it to make it completely useless.
well there were two ways to go. make it simliar to gmc, which is how it was supposed to be in the first place (it was basically a 50mm puma with splash) or keep it the same, make it as easy to kill as the gmc because it had high survivability along with pretty much being able to hit anything it shot at. |
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« Reply #71 on: November 08, 2011, 06:46:51 pm » |
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The Stummel and the GMC both just need to have reasonably good accuracy. While they won't be able to roll a hit, they'll have a hope in hell of landing a shell somewhere actually near the target.
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« Reply #72 on: November 09, 2011, 01:50:02 am » |
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GMC is fine, it has a wider arc, longer range and I think it fires faster too
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« Reply #73 on: November 09, 2011, 01:54:53 am » |
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It wasn't that imba to begin with
Wow... just wow. that removes all credibility for you in this thread. |
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Tymathee
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« Reply #74 on: November 09, 2011, 02:04:38 am » |
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interesting quetion...are they using the 233 or the 234/3 model for the stummel?
also in some research, it seems that the stummel used the same gun as the short barrell p4, so maybe it does need some tweaking.
Turn it into a fast moving, although it should be slower than puma because of larger gun 37mm and 50mm vs 75mm. thats infantry support, does reasonably well vs light vehicles and sux vs tanks.
One of the biggest issues that the stummel used to have b4 nerf was that it could engage tanks quite well from the rear.
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« Reply #75 on: November 29, 2011, 11:08:04 am » |
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Wow... just wow.
that removes all credibility for you in this thread.
You must be smoking crack because it preformed it's job the way it should have. It was just too fast and could escape certain death because of that. So if you made it slower to accel/deccel, then it wouldn't be able to get away and would die. Right now it useless, why not just test it with my accel/deccel nerf, I bet it would be pretty balanced then. |
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« Reply #76 on: November 29, 2011, 11:10:10 am » |
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You must be smoking crack because it preformed it's job the way it should have. It was just too fast and could escape certain death because of that. So if you made it slower to accel/deccel, then it wouldn't be able to get away and would die. Right now it useless, why not just test it with my accel/deccel nerf, I bet it would be pretty balanced then.
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« Reply #77 on: November 29, 2011, 01:47:06 pm » |
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You must be smoking crack because it preformed it's job the way it should have. It was just too fast and could escape certain death because of that. So if you made it slower to accel/deccel, then it wouldn't be able to get away and would die. Right now it useless, why not just test it with my accel/deccel nerf, I bet it would be pretty balanced then.
So you think wiping half a Rifleman squad from 50 range on every shot that rolls a hit is balanced? Imagine you have artillery firing on your infantry and support teams... Except it doesn't stop after 4-6 rounds. It keeps going. Accurately. |
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« Reply #78 on: November 29, 2011, 01:50:48 pm » |
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crack is to less for this statement tbh
i agree with u stummel needs to be nerfed price increase to 200 fuel and armor change to halftrack armor maybe? i have hard time against these stummel abusers |
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« Reply #79 on: November 29, 2011, 01:52:29 pm » |
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As I said previously in this thread, the only thing the Stummel and GMC need is a bit of an accuracy buff. They don't roll hits now so half decent accuracy wouldn't hurt.
Read: Half decent does not mean pin-point perfect.
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