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Author Topic: Upgun Puma -1 pop  (Read 10440 times)
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Smokaz Offline
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« on: August 11, 2011, 09:42:59 pm »

I would suggest lowering the population of this to 7.

It's yet been successfully introduced to the game. You very seldom see it.

It's not a bad unit but the pop is prohibitive for its low health, survivability and mediocre weapon.
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2011, 09:58:11 pm »

it needs it. it doesnt really get any buffs from any of the doctrines, extra repair from blitz, and slightly more damage from terror, but thats it. its a good unit, but it needs some help to get used. i think the pricing is fair, but dropping its pop cap would help, you can send them out in pairs and wouldnt be hurting yourself with 16 pop, only 14.
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2011, 10:05:15 pm »

Wouldn't hurt to loose a pop.

+1

And smokaz finally said something that isn't crazy.
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2011, 10:10:39 pm »

Definitely doesn't deserve the same pop as the Stug
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2011, 10:21:02 pm »

-1


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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2011, 10:49:38 pm »

And smokaz finally said something that isn't crazy.

kind of disappointing isn't it?
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2011, 11:28:47 pm »

the allied fanboy agrees
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2011, 12:29:14 am »

I love them against brits. nom nom everything.
But yes, 8 pop is ridiculous.
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Malgoroth Offline
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2011, 01:19:54 am »

Pop could be lowered to 6 and I still wouldn't use it tbh. But that's just me. As it stands, it definitely isn't worth 8 atm.

As an aside... does anyone remember immediately after OF came out when stugs and walking stukas had really good accuracy and damage modifiers against British infantry? EiR should bring that shit back  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2011, 05:32:34 am »

Will bring this to the BT since it seems popular.
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2011, 05:50:33 am »

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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2011, 05:54:50 am »

lol if i i'd start this thread it would be it's a 'nug thread' etc
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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2011, 05:59:49 am »

lol if i i'd start this thread it would be it's a 'nug thread' etc

Not likely, you have no conception of balance so the chances of you posting a balance thread about a unit that's actually underpowered are very low.
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2011, 06:01:51 am »

Not likely, you have no conception of balance so the chances of you posting a balance thread about a unit that's actually underpowered are very low.

I already made a thread with puma some time ago,  selective memory ftw Pony.

http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=20336.0
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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2011, 06:08:48 am »

I already made a thread with puma some time ago,  selective memory ftw Pony.

http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=20336.0

The upgun puma was the only one that made sense.
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2011, 06:10:12 am »

Yet your previous argument was proven wrong and you still keep banging your head against the wall.
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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2011, 06:20:33 am »

Yet your previous argument was proven wrong and you still keep banging your head against the wall.

No, you did NOT create a thread about the upgun puma. You created a thread about several units that you deemed underpowered and in reality most of them were not, the upgun just happened to be one of them. You also didn't say why they were underpowered and what could be done to fix it which is key when writing a balance thread.
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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2011, 06:26:07 am »

Your argument was that I
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have no conception of balance...about a unit that's actually underpowered
If that was true there wouldn't be puma nor assault grens which should have a big priority for buffing.
Don't change your argument now when you were proven wrong.
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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2011, 09:09:15 am »

Your argument was that I If that was true there wouldn't be puma nor assault grens which should have a big priority for buffing.
Don't change your argument now when you were proven wrong.

i think though, if you complain about enough units being UP, math says you'll eventually say one is UP that everyone else agree is UP.  Cheesy
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« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2011, 09:40:53 am »

i think though, if you complain about enough units being UP, math says you'll eventually say one is UP that everyone else agree is UP.  Cheesy

Refer to my dartboard metaphor. :p

Any chance of this being moved to balance? This is more of a balance discussion than an actual suggestion tbh.

Btw, I approve of lowering the pop, these things are seldom used. For their actual price they are half decent but they are a bitch to field at 8 pop. Lowering to 6-7 would be fine.
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