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Scotzmen Offline
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« on: September 04, 2011, 10:43:35 pm »

The NZ goverment passed something or other so that they can now watch our internet usage and see what we are doing. The reason is to stop pirating and the such like. They can disable your internet and contact the copyright holder to see if they would like to take action against you to. So NZ is basically shit now.
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2011, 01:10:21 am »

The NZ goverment passed something or other so that they can now watch our internet usage and see what we are doing. The reason is to stop pirating and the such like. They can disable your internet and contact the copyright holder to see if they would like to take action against you to. So NZ is basically shit now.
Fortunately, its not quite that simple.

First, you need to be 'flagged' as having possible malign usage, then monitored from there.  Then, you can get warned up to 3 times before you even get charges / investigated further.

It wont stop old-school FTP downloaders like me ;p

It WILL stop all the dumb-fuck torrent users.
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2011, 01:11:53 am »

This article sums it up nicely.

http://boingboing.net/2011/04/13/new-zealand-to-sneak.html
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2011, 01:16:01 am »

From a seperate article:

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Who is liable?

The person named on the internet bill, not the person who physically clicks on the download icon. So mums, dads, holiday home owners, schools and universities are at risk of being pinged for their children's, guests' or students' illegal activities.
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InternetNZ chief executive Vikram Kumar says the Government's approach is lazy. "Think of it like a street address. Instead of finding out who in the house has committed the crime, the blame will fall on the homeowner."
Just goes to show how ignorant and short-sighted our MPs actually are.
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Scotzmen Offline
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2011, 02:36:43 am »

Huh, i better watch my ass then. But i tend to Direct download rather than torrent his kinda stuff. Torrents are unpredictable to me.

Can you sill get caught if you use P2P programs?
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2011, 04:58:48 am »

Huh, i better watch my ass then. But i tend to Direct download rather than torrent his kinda stuff. Torrents are unpredictable to me.

Can you sill get caught if you use P2P programs?
Just dont use P2P pretty much yeah.

mIRC for teh win.  A bit longer to search for what you want buy hey....

Its a pirates life for me.
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2011, 04:59:18 am »

The NZ goverment passed something or other so that they can now watch our internet usage and see what we are doing. The reason is to stop pirating and the such like. They can disable your internet and contact the copyright holder to see if they would like to take action against you to. So NZ is basically shit now.

oh noes no illegal p0rn dl for eirmod anymore
more time for warmap coding WIN  Grin
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PonySlaystation Offline
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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2011, 05:05:39 am »

just use a proxy?
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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2011, 09:15:36 am »

If a proxy can't stop someone who knows what he's doing in tracing an IP address, it surely can't stop the government.
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Spartan_Marine88 Offline
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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2011, 09:30:48 am »

I love how governments have yet to realize that music, movie and game piracy have only ever increased sales. (contrary to everyone saying its gonna kill the industries)
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PonySlaystation Offline
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2011, 12:35:53 pm »

I love how governments have yet to realize that music, movie and game piracy have only ever increased sales. (contrary to everyone saying its gonna kill the industries)

What scientific data or statistics do you have to support that argument?
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Spartan_Marine88 Offline
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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2011, 12:44:46 pm »

What scientific data or statistics do you have to support that argument?

Just google it tbh

or use a bit of common sense, im tired of the dumbassery of people. But its been common knowledge for a while. Because you asked the question, im pretty sure your own research skills are negligible so let me point out this, alot of mainstream media uses only data gleamed from stores (which is that cd hardcopy  data is down about 12% this year. Ignoring the nearly 30% increase in digital sales)
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PonySlaystation Offline
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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2011, 12:59:46 pm »

how exactly is that related to piracy?
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Spartan_Marine88 Offline
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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2011, 01:01:39 pm »

generally piracy has grown, and sales have grown
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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2011, 01:47:03 pm »

generally piracy has grown, and sales have grown

Clearly this means that global cooling increases piracy, which increases sales. Debunking global warming shills and corporate economists at the same time.

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« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2011, 02:17:52 pm »

rofl
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« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2011, 02:54:47 pm »

If a proxy can't stop someone who knows what he's doing in tracing an IP address, it surely can't stop the government.
You have no idea how stupid the regulations are.

Its automatic, and if it cant resolve the ip accurately, it dismisses it.

Thus, proxies are the work-around.  Or spoofing, but that can be tracked back unfortunately.
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Vermillion_Hawk Offline
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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2011, 03:39:43 pm »

You have no idea how stupid the regulations are.

Its automatic, and if it cant resolve the ip accurately, it dismisses it.

Thus, proxies are the work-around.  Or spoofing, but that can be tracked back unfortunately.

Well frankly you'd think if the government was intent on enforcing a law they'd at least do it properly. Not that I support this type of law whatsoever, it could set a dangerous precedent.
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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2011, 03:41:22 pm »

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« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2011, 03:47:21 pm »


At least my country exists.
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