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smurfORnot Offline
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« on: October 13, 2011, 12:12:25 am »

I was not raped by them,so I am no rage posting or anything similar... I already heard few people complaining how they are a bit OP for their price and what they can do. Last time I was in launcher Hicks was complaining after a game vs Leo how retarded is that it takes 5-6 shrecks hits to even kill one  Roll Eyes
After every game I played with Night,we agreed that they are a bit OP for only 280mp and 70fuel.

then again there is this,what most of you saw. I mean,why would LV even try to circle marder,one of best tank killers,when it can just dig in in front of it,and kill it  Roll Eyes
http://www.xfire.com/video/4d6fc0/

with buffs they can get from doctrines,they can become more than GOOD. They are great vs most of PE vehicles,you can kite also any turtle tank with ease,if something bigger comes,you have speed+phase armor to escape to safety. And against infantry weapons(shrecks) you get 0.75 dmg modifier.
With carnister shot you instantly put to ground any infantry,and he is actually quite good at sniping infantry.

So what is general opinion people have about them?
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Tymathee Offline
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2011, 12:33:55 am »

It's not a light vehicle, it's a Light tank

and uh, that video shows a stupid use of a marder. its sitting still, marders out range it, back up and pick it off.

also, repair is broken on both PE and Brits where vehicles can fire while reparing, so what you're seeing is bugged stuff, u can't balance things based on bugs.

btw, hotch upgun is same price and it's a much better tank killer. you lower one price, you lower the other.
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2011, 12:44:19 am »

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and uh, that video shows a stupid use of a marder. its sitting still, marders out range it, back up and pick it off.
yes,because what it happens in most of cases,stuart will never try to circle marder,right,they will just engage them from front,so backing up with marder works,hmm,strange,never seemed to work for me  Roll Eyes ...this just shows case when stuart doesnt do his circle tactic,he can beat marder head on.

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btw, hotch upgun is same price and it's a much better tank killer. you lower one price, you lower the other.
and it completely sucks vs infantry,and it has lover survivability from what I saw. As a PE,when I want tank killer,I take marder,not hotch. Spamming hotches isnt rly all that effective or exciting,on other hand,spamming stuarts seems to work more than fine.
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CommieKiller Offline
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2011, 12:51:13 am »

Just remove puma phase armor. Allies didn't need phase armor on their lvs in the first place. It's not like axis have recoiless rifles.
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2011, 12:54:47 am »

And what exactly do RR's have to do with anything?
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2011, 08:13:36 am »

I was not raped by them,so I am no rage posting or anything similar... I already heard few people complaining how they are a bit OP for their price and what they can do. Last time I was in launcher Hicks was complaining after a game vs Leo how retarded is that it takes 5-6 shrecks hits to even kill one  Roll Eyes
After every game I played with Night,we agreed that they are a bit OP for only 280mp and 70fuel.

then again there is this,what most of you saw. I mean,why would LV even try to circle marder,one of best tank killers,when it can just dig in in front of it,and kill it  Roll Eyes
http://www.xfire.com/video/4d6fc0/

with buffs they can get from doctrines,they can become more than GOOD. They are great vs most of PE vehicles,you can kite also any turtle tank with ease,if something bigger comes,you have speed+phase armor to escape to safety. And against infantry weapons(shrecks) you get 0.75 dmg modifier.
With carnister shot you instantly put to ground any infantry,and he is actually quite good at sniping infantry.

So what is general opinion people have about them?

Thats just retarded Tongue
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Hicks58 Offline
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2011, 08:41:30 am »

Stuarts themselves are fine, doctrines which give Stuarts the same staying power as Shermans... That's when we have a problem.
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2011, 01:04:50 pm »

i'll make this short.

1. You can't base balance of a unit based on bugs and doc abilities. Just fix bugs and buffs.


2. Stuart > light vehicle killer, tank harasser and infantry harasser

3. Staghound = infantry killer, tank harasser, lv harasser
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2011, 01:11:46 pm »

i'll make this short.

1. You can't base balance of a unit based on bugs and doc abilities. Just fix bugs and buffs.

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PonySlaystation Offline
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2011, 01:25:19 pm »

actually the stuart is just as good as the stag at killing infantry but it has less health.
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2011, 02:07:30 pm »

Only as far as the main gun is concerned, and the Stag .50cal makes all the difference.

That, and I've yet to see somebody field a Stag without a .50cal, hell it may as well be put into the cost of the unit.
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2011, 02:15:33 pm »

actually the stuart is just as good as the stag at killing infantry but it has less health.

stuart gun has faster reload
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2011, 03:38:54 pm »

Only as far as the main gun is concerned, and the Stag .50cal makes all the difference.

That, and I've yet to see somebody field a Stag without a .50cal, hell it may as well be put into the cost of the unit.

thats true actually, there is no point in the stag w/o .50
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