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[TheVolskinator]

I rarely see it, its a pretty pathetic unit compared to the M8 and doesnt deal as much dmg, have as much hp, or justify its cost at all. So whats the dealio, is there a plan to make the T17 a worthwhile investment in the future? Right now its just occupying a T1 that could probably be used on something better.

[Jodomar]

There was a time where the t17 was really awesome but that time has passed. I do agree to a buff for this unit, the m8 does have a chance to kill tanks and other vehicles but the t17 is purely infantry. Maybe it's health should go up again.

[marda145]

Have you ever played against Deadbolts t17 company?

This unit is much better against infantry than m8.

[Mister Schmidt]

The T17 is awesome, you don't know what you're talking about.

It's not as good as it used to be, granted, but it's still a really good unit. Much better than a Puma or Stag without 50cal.

[smurfORnot]

give him back phosphorous rounds,watch axis cry in pain,lol

[marda145]

I just dont understand, why is staghound that much cheaper.

[Hicks58]

The Staghound and the T17 work differently.

The Staghound is a LV/Inf hunter, while the T17 is purely AI. However, the T17 is better than the Staghound at AI due to it's weapon firing pretty similar to an Ostwind, while the Staghound fires in a fashion closer to the M8.

T17's did have the potential for utter infantry rape, not entirely sure how they stand now... Haven't used them for quite a while since their initial knee-jerk nerf many moons ago.

[Poppi]

I just dont understand, why is staghound that much cheaper.

I THINK the ROF is higher with t17
T17 pen is pretty sad, even with HVAP. So i guess thats why m8 has more praise. Kill infantry and harass armor

I havent used t17s in a while. But when i did they were awesome against inf.
I was thinking about bringing out a few b/c all i see now is Stgs blobs and Mustard gas mortars. (like axis needed a buff to the best mortar teams in the game already)
So time to terrorize the terror build.

[CrazyWR]

I've been saying this for months.  Nobody in there right mind would buy a t17 right now when it costs 50% more fuel than an m8, can't defend itself vs even an upgun puma, much less an ostwind, and has been nerfed so many times it takes forever to actually hurt anyone unless they stand in the middle of a field not moving.  Meanwhile an m8 can plant mines, damage vehicles, and suppress targets.  The t17 needs a buff desperately.

[EliteGren]

It's a trade off. It kills infantry much better than an M8 and also much quicker with more range. In exchange it can't fight anything else. I love this unit, even for its price

[RikiRude]

Have you ever played against Deadbolts t17 company?

This unit is much better against infantry than m8.

we could give deadbolt an all eng company and he would still do good with it, not a valid argument.

t17 is used to harass at range and runaway. ive seen it used to great affect, though it doesnt fit into my company or play style. it used to be godly, but right now i feel that it's pretty balanced. you just need to learn how to use it.

[Scotzmen]

Im tempted to use t17's now...

[8thRifleRegiment]

I rarely see it, its a pretty pathetic unit compared to the M8 and doesnt deal as much dmg, have as much hp, or justify its cost at all. So whats the dealio, is there a plan to make the T17 a worthwhile investment in the future? Right now its just occupying a T1 that could probably be used on something better.

somebody doesnt do thier research as the t17 has more health then the m8, it fires faster, and eats any infantry sqaud for breakfast, it also totals anything PE can field short of an IST and a panther.

[Poppi]

Do T17 have phase armor as well?

[CrazyWR]

no.   And honestly, M8 with 50cal is at least as effective imo vs infantry as the current version of the t17.

[RikiRude]

Do T17 have phase armor as well?

yes im quite sure they do. obviously some people havent dealt with good T17 use. most people wont even have the proper counters in their normal company set up. Meta says, probably not a bad idea to take advantage of them.

[smurfORnot]

used good,they can be rly nasty...when used bad,they just suck.

[Jodomar]

I used to use these things all the time and i'd rather have the m8. Sure the t17 kills inf great but that's it and for less fuel I can get a m8 that can suppress, be a threat to tanks, and can lay some awesome mines down. Of coarse I'm going to take the unit that fills multiple roles over one that just fills a single role and is more expensive.

[Poppi]

I used to use these things all the time and i'd rather have the m8. Sure the t17 kills inf great but that's it and for less fuel I can get a m8 that can suppress, be a threat to tanks, and can lay some awesome mines down. Of coarse I'm going to take the unit that fills multiple roles over one that just fills a single role and is more expensive.

ya i like t17 sniping ability. But you are right m8s are more of threat. Especially in groups.

[clonetroopers]

Could the T17 get the white phosphorus rounds back by chance?