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« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2011, 02:31:46 pm »

ohh god its like i just turned into puddin.
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« Reply #41 on: October 24, 2011, 02:36:26 pm »

go spam something then,lol
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« Reply #42 on: October 24, 2011, 02:47:19 pm »

Still thinking this would go well in Blitz tbh... Well, as long as it doesn't become another Stummel or GMC in terms of usefulness.
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« Reply #43 on: October 24, 2011, 04:11:02 pm »

For a guy who has a content creator badge I have yet to see you put out even half the suggestions Volsk does, Schmidt.

lol get good scrub, stop whining when you don't know what you're talking about

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« Reply #44 on: October 24, 2011, 05:20:02 pm »

Still thinking this would go well in Blitz tbh... Well, as long as it doesn't become another Stummel or GMC in terms of usefulness.

last thing blitz needs is artillery. it already gets tigers, stuhs and storm troopers, 3 very good units.
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« Reply #45 on: October 24, 2011, 05:25:23 pm »

If it were heavy artillery such as a 105 or a Hummel, I'd be inclined to agree. However, Blitz is sorely lacking a support weapon to keep up with advancing forces, be it in range or mobility. Mortar doesn't really pack the needed punch as well as being arty bait, and the nebel is a bitch to cart around and wait for.
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« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2011, 05:29:00 pm »

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« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2011, 05:29:48 pm »

read wiki about the weapon. it fits into terror.
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« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2011, 06:17:34 pm »

read wiki about the weapon. it fits into terror.

Ok, but how does it fit into balance? This thing would be a stuka on steroids; it would remove the last edge the allies have over the axis in CoH: artillery. Drive up, barrage howie or 25, roll away. As much as I hate to say it, half the time allied teams owe the callie for a win as its the only weapon they have that can cut a swath through campy support spam or a minefield.
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« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2011, 06:56:58 pm »

It doesn't belong in any axis doctrine, though I could see it making a good warmap/reward type unit for the Wehrmacht.

It looks like it'd be a calliope with half the armor and half the number of rockets. Hardly OP in the least. At worst a more mobile, but more rare direct fire nebel.

Volsk, the calliope is a mother fucker, and I hate it, but it's not the savior of the poor neglected allies. Any allied team will more than likely have its share of arty to deal with support spam/minefields. You don't even need a cally for minefields... a mortar is enough and even that is overkill.
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« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2011, 07:59:35 pm »

Ok, but how does it fit into balance? This thing would be a stuka on steroids; it would remove the last edge the allies have over the axis in CoH: artillery. Drive up, barrage howie or 25, roll away. As much as I hate to say it, half the time allied teams owe the callie for a win as its the only weapon they have that can cut a swath through campy support spam or a minefield.

Cali is fail tbfh. I run allies without arty as my armor coy and it works fine.
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« Reply #51 on: October 24, 2011, 10:39:44 pm »

If it were heavy artillery such as a 105 or a Hummel, I'd be inclined to agree. However, Blitz is sorely lacking a support weapon to keep up with advancing forces, be it in range or mobility. Mortar doesn't really pack the needed punch as well as being arty bait, and the nebel is a bitch to cart around and wait for.

add as unlock that nebel can be towed around,problem solved Wink
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« Reply #52 on: October 25, 2011, 12:00:58 am »

It would make a good unlock, or an ability for the STuH that allows it to fire like a LeIG...hmmm...
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« Reply #53 on: October 25, 2011, 02:11:46 am »

If it were heavy artillery such as a 105 or a Hummel, I'd be inclined to agree. However, Blitz is sorely lacking a support weapon to keep up with advancing forces, be it in range or mobility. Mortar doesn't really pack the needed punch as well as being arty bait, and the nebel is a bitch to cart around and wait for.

Blitz was always supposed to break through the lines with sheer force on ground.  Blitzkrieg + shells + tiger etc.

But as the gameplay changed it is currently the only one without real arty so yea, it might do ok tp have it, but it should be good. It should be a callie without a gun that is faster with less hp.
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« Reply #54 on: October 25, 2011, 02:48:49 am »

If your entire regular inf + tank/vehicle force have choices available to them to help them propel around the field in a shorter amount of time by increased move speed or by direct routes without detection.. I would probably call it a Defensive doctrine, defintely. Roll Eyes And of course this increases your need to have more support weapons trailing along, its not like this is a advantage in itself it just creates the disadvangtage of slow support weapons or lack of arty.

Also allied teams without arty, snipers or mortars is just a gimmick for ME/R mode. Hell it's not even that, its a gimmick centered around holding equal ground. AMPM is a notorious camper.

RIP nebel of exellence, the 7 pop unit which critted buildings and was actually good before being gimped to hell.
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« Reply #55 on: October 25, 2011, 02:51:49 am »

RIP nebel of exellence, the 7 pop unit which critted buildings and was actually good before being gimped to hell.

Nebel right now is more of an annoyance only when your inf gets suppressed.
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