Noob Advantage Supply Drop

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[RikiRude]

I think this needs a real looking at, because once again, this is one of those things that naturally benefits axis. Now I don't have time to flesh it all out, so I'm just comparing US and WM, but I think it's about the same with CW and PE.

Let's take a look at the supply drops.

US - zook, .30 cal, mortar
WM - schreck, mg42, mortar

now first i'll point out the obvious, schreck, that's WAY better than a zook. but look it, everything else is as well!

now just look at the advantage it is,

US
.30 - 20mu
mo - 50mu
zook - 55

120mu

WM
amo - 65
mg42 - 40
shreck - 105

210mu

Almost double! Not to mention giving a rifle squad or even a ranger squad an extra zook isnt a huge deal, give a storm squad another schreck and you run into problems. not to mention you also can crew an mg that is worth twice as much mu, and a mortar that totally outclasses US.

Now let me tell you how this affects things, as a US player I'll grab the zook, and never even look at the mg or mortar most times, as axis i sure as hell grab every piece and do my best to keep it alive.

Here are some suggestions for a fix:

-dont bother with a zook, just have an empty atg drop, mu wise it puts it on par with the axis drop, and an atg is far more useful than a zook.
- drop two or even three zooks, or two zooks and some BARs, or boys at, some kind of combination
-dont have WM get a mortar with theirs

also, why are supply drops only noob advantages? make that AB T2 worthwhile and throw a supply drop in with the ability to buy lmgs and vehicle mines.

[Mister Schmidt]

Some fair points indeed, I'd like to see supply drops having a much more random element to them.

Like dropping a couple BARs and a mortar, or medkits & a shreck.

Failing that, improving the quality of the US supply drop would be nice

[Poppi]

never thought of the supply drop.

makes sense.
the shrek has obvious advantages over the super weak zook
and MG42... if you saw a mg 42 and a .30 cal on the field. which one would you take? mg42
and US mortars cant hit shit. so... yet again.

[smurfORnot]

yes,shreck is rly on pair with atg 
should drop 2 zooks tbh

while you are on it,why didnt you compare PE one,they only get shreck and some LMG,way worse than Wehr and even than US/brit,

[Valexandes]

I would gladly take a schrek and lmg over a zook and us support weapons

[Smokaz]

British one is the worst tbh, followed by PE's

[Contaminator]

whoa whoa whoa! i actually like the brits drop. their mortar is short range but rapes when it gets a hit. vickers mg trololols infantry when used properly. and the piat is most delicious especially when you have an officer with a sapper group so then he can pick it up and derp at range with the sappers. or give the piat to the sapper group and you have the most intense rape face AT group in all of EIR.

MU may not be on par with with brits (have no idea how much it is for brits) compared to Wehr but I wouldnt want it changed all that much. maybe swap randomize it like previously suggested and throw in a bren gun as a dropable option.

[Audemed]

PE's is best, TBFH. LMG42 is perfectly fine when placed on a PG/falls squad, and a shreck is...a shreck. OTOH, mortars and MG's tend to get un-used many times. Zook is shit, needs to drop at least 3, or a pair of RR's. 2 PIAT would also be justified.

[smurfORnot]

yes,lmg42 is better than MG42 and mortar 

[Smokaz]

First time i heard someone like the "2 mortar

[Mister Schmidt]

I love the 2inch, my favourite mortar

[Hicks58]

The 2" is a nice piece of kit... If you can get it in range.

[Audemed]

yes,lmg42 is better than MG42 and mortar 

I'd like you to find where, in my post, I said that it was better.

[Smokaz]

Its like this for supply drops:

Wehr
Americans
Brit
PE

would fix by:

addding 1x bar to americans
adding another piat to brits
adding another lmg to pe

[Poppi]

Its like this for supply drops:

Wehr
Americans
Brit
PE

more like

Wehr
-
-
-
-
Americans
Brit
PE

is the brits so much worse than American? Zook does crap damage, piat can shot over things and hurt heavy vehicles, but less likely to hit LV. 2" mortars kill stuff 81mm doesnt. Guess that leaves vicks vs .30.

[Valexandes]

vicks suppress better. victory to the brits.
30 cal damage is sweet but lack of suppression makes it easier to overrun.
I'd go vicks.

[RikiRude]

while you are on it,why didnt you compare PE one,they only get shreck and some LMG,way worse than Wehr and even than US/brit,

L2R

Now I don't have time to flesh it all out, so I'm just comparing US and WM, but I think it's about the same with CW and PE.

I was going to compare them, I was on my way to the dentist and didn't have time, I wasn't even sure what the PE one was.

But I agree they jsut get two things? That's pretty lame.

sure atg is way better than schreck but shcreck is way better than zook, and so is everything else, it seems perfectly fine imo. atg is 140mu, mg is 20mu, mortar is 50mu, that actually puts it RIGHT ON PAR with what WM gets.

CW could use an extra piat imo, their mortar is awesome, it just needs too much micro.

I like smokaz suggestion, but I really like Mister Schmidts as well adding in medkits and such would be very cool, also RRs or MP44s, all these things would be great to see added in.