RikiRude
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« on: December 22, 2011, 02:54:04 pm » |
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At some point was the "+25% penetration and damage" removed? I feel like it was, but maybe it got put back in? The m18 has changed so much and been reverted, I wasn't even sure if this doctrine ability got messed around with.
So that means attacking from ambush you get a +35% damage and +58 penetration on top of the normal first strike penetration and damage bonuses?
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2011, 03:18:31 pm » |
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the extra ambush bonus never worked
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RikiRude
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2011, 03:23:12 pm » |
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THAT'S what it was! ok thanks, maybe ground should take it out of the T4 then, I was going to try hvap and wasnt sure if i wanted to use m10s or m18s and that was part of my factoring.
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2011, 03:26:58 pm » |
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With how similar the two units are now the M18 is a better investment. It takes more of an all around beating and only penetrates slightly less then an M10. Plus it has innate Ambush, 46 base sight and options for slow mines and a top MG and all for cheaper(currently) then an M10!
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2011, 03:56:31 pm » |
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THAT'S what it was! ok thanks, maybe ground should take it out of the T4 then, I was going to try hvap and wasnt sure if i wanted to use m10s or m18s and that was part of my factoring.
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Hicks58
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2011, 05:39:31 pm » |
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Btw, HVAP kicks up M18 penetration to just under the levels of M10's without it.
M10's and M18's need to have distinct roles tbh.
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2011, 06:16:23 pm » |
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Btw, HVAP kicks up M18 penetration to just under the levels of M10's without it.
M10's and M18's need to have distinct roles tbh.
agreed. the reason they changed the m-18 is to make it a viable replacement for the m-10. Now in EIR, why wouldn't u want an m-18? I like Ampm's idea one time of making it like a slow turreted marder but thats kinda what the Achillies is. |
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2011, 06:20:00 pm » |
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i hate the M18, LEAVE THE m10 ALONE !
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lionel23
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2011, 07:47:29 pm » |
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I do agree the M18 is usually better to have in all instances. Now if the M10 had sight to match the hellcat, I'd consider taking it but since they are both fragile, I rather take the cheaper hellcat which has a MG option and cloak and mines over the blind M10.
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2011, 10:39:29 pm » |
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I like hellcats but i take m10s sure mgs and mines are great especially with ambush but my ambush aalways seems to miss :/. other then that i use the m10 cause m10 crush i can get 7 infantry kills in a matter of seconds or push em into a bad position as where the crush on the m18 isnt very good.
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You are welcome to your opinion.
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RikiRude
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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2011, 10:52:12 pm » |
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agreed they need more distinct rolls.
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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2011, 12:25:58 am » |
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yes,m10 needs to be less anty infantry orientated  |
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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2011, 01:25:46 am » |
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yes,m10 needs to be less anty infantry orientated +1 |
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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2011, 03:11:41 am » |
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yes,m10 needs to be less anty infantry orientated dear no WTF (fucking axis fanboy) |
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« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2011, 03:30:17 am » |
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M10 needs sherman 75mm splash tbh cos its to dangerous to crush schrecksquads
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« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2011, 03:35:57 am » |
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M10 needs sherman 75mm splash tbh cos its to dangerous to crush schrecksquads
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