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Author Topic: M36 Jackson (not slugger): The 'American Marder' ?  (Read 7615 times)
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« on: December 29, 2011, 09:24:01 am »

To replace the current poop T2 offmap as an armor company T2 unlock. 55 Range, M10 cannon w. +1s reload and ~.10 more penetration at all ranges. Turret rotation similar to the Shermans or P4s (unsure which stat affects this, the RGD/CoH stats 'rotation' applies to the tanks' chassis' rotation speed, or the turret, or both?).

Or pass this on to the M18 and make it the farrari of the U.S. tank world. Yes its (too) good (for its cost) right now, but I say bump the cost and make IT the very fast, very potent, but medium expense (400-480 MP, 200-290 FU) TD with speed, 55 range, and so on. IMHO, the M18 in this case should be MP heavy to avoid customary Armor companies with vaults and armories full of armor and then 20something suicide rifles in tow.

^ For the above, one or the other.

Avoid the flame, I did my research on the M18 after I suggested the above ideas. Apparently it was vastly superior in arms, armorment, and effectiveness to the M10, which is why I didnt second the idea for the M10 being the U.S. marder. The M18 was purpose built, had a superior cannon on it, was faster with a speed record or 55mphfor a tracked vehicle unmatched until the advent of the M1 Abrams in the 1980s, and had a higher kill ratio (iirc). If someone would be willing to kind of peer over my shoulder while I did, I wouldnt mind exploring a few variations of statistics for a new unit or overhaul of the current TDs, including armor types, speed, ranges etc to retain balance as is (Ill cut the fanboy bullshit, used properly U.S. TDs are great peices of AT and are very VERY cost effective).
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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2011, 11:12:50 am »

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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2011, 11:24:09 am »

Get something that is not OP, A Ripoff off a FF or been tryed before and removed and then they may listen to you but here you are stating RL and we all know what EIR aint.
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2011, 12:02:14 pm »

This goes against the doctrine guidelines. You want to place an unlock in the offmaps tree. There are 3 different trees in the unlocks for a reason. Either keep it consistent or don't even bother
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2011, 12:55:34 pm »

thye need to add a super pershing reward unit or something. apparantly the one pershing shipped to europe knocked out over 2 panther 2 tigers 5+ p4s it was the only one shipped to europe.
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2011, 01:10:44 pm »

There was a Firefly Ace who knocked out 5 Panthers in a row, using only one shot a piece.

Crew proficiency really isn't a reason to make a better variation of a tank. The only reason the Tiger Ace exists is because it was originally in CoH a long time ago.
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2011, 01:16:45 pm »

Shitty KT Was added instead.
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2011, 03:23:37 pm »

A single P4 crew had a total of 34 t-34 kills and 4 is-2 kills with the same tank... P4 NEEDS BUFF!
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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2011, 03:49:24 pm »

buffing m-18 and turning it into a doc unlock wouldn't be that bad of an idea tbh. pair it with the t-17
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2011, 04:20:44 pm »

I never normally like ideas from Tym, but he may have struck gold with that one.

Buff it, price it, and place it as an unlock accordingly instead of having a wannabe M10.
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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2011, 04:21:42 pm »

Im against anyone touching the M10, is so much better then the m18
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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2011, 04:25:23 pm »

That's ok, I aint said shit about the M10 lol.
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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2011, 05:10:18 pm »

I never normally like ideas from Tym, but he may have struck gold with that one.

there's a few golden nuggets amongst the brown ones
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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2011, 05:24:20 pm »

Small wonder tym didnt make the thread  Angry
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« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2011, 05:25:45 pm »

Just stop trying to bring ideas to the mod, they dont listen to anyone unless its someone they respect and we all know what happend to your vet 3 Minsweeper.They dont give a flying fuck what i think either
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« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2011, 05:26:50 pm »

Volsk, if your going to make an idea, start simple then go complex, not the other way around.

People are more receptive to intial concepts and THEN the big influx of details.

Throw every nitty gritty detail and half a backstory to boot and people either say Tl;dr, or lolnorealismincohforyou.
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« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2011, 05:29:02 pm »

Amen.
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« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2011, 06:10:59 pm »

Small wonder tym didnt make the thread  Angry

jealous? dont be. I've been around longer and understand the game and mod better, plus i was a dev for like a month lol.

also, like he said. just be simple, you put a lot of thought, thats great, but its like ur just throwing the ideas out of your head and expecting us to get it or go along with it then get frustrated when we don't (ala nugnug)

you know how many ideas i've thrown out there that didn't make it vs ideas that did? lol. its about a 30-1 ratio. or ideas that people like vs disliked? its about 20-1. dont sweat it.
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« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2011, 06:13:56 pm »

jealous? dont be. I've been around longer and understand the game and mod better

No, just no Tym.

Watching you even attempt to pull that card on somebody makes me facepalm. Yes, you've been around longer, but saying you understand the game and mod better because of it is nothing short of a total fallacy.

You big fanboy. -.-'

You've hit a decent idea, stop getting carried away. >.>
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« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2011, 06:23:15 pm »

buffing m-18 and turning it into a doc unlock wouldn't be that bad of an idea tbh. pair it with the t-17

i am totally for this!

but how would it affect AB and inf not having m18 anymore?

but tbh make WP strike useful, it's total shit. up its damage or splash or something ffs.

one of my favorite things in the world is watching someone us a WPS that has never used it before. so much disappoint.
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