stummel needs mg 34 see proof below

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[Spartan_Marine88]

105 needs a .50 for those pesky blah blah blah

too many multipurpose units out there.

105 has a .50

[BigDick]

stummel is already op as fuck, don't need more retarded gimmicks attached

[hans]

stummel is already op as fuck, don't need more retarded gimmicks attached

[BigDick]

no unrelated pics plz (tank where r u?) kthxbye

[Hicks58]

Were in general discussion.

kthxbai.

[Demon767]

This is in general discussion

[Uglysori]

not rly that hard.
I dont even bother with them,marder provides you with best AT you can get for the price! With APCR it just becomes beast.

I'm really surprised EIRR vets esp ones that I know have logged significant time on PE feel this way about the 50mm HT.  I agree that the Marder is a better deal munition-wise and population wise but for a Marder's fuel cost you can fit almost 4 more 50mm HTs.  As Hicks said your only other options for AT at around that fuel cost or lower are Shreks, on foot or in clown cars, and the upgun Hotchkiss.

A 50mm sitting on a road used to be close to impossible to circle with an M10/M18 but I believe that changed when they stopped 50mms from being able to shoot on the move.

50mm run mainly into trouble from small arms when they are at 60% health or lower when engine crits come into play though it is a little ridiculous how quickly rifles and bars can eat into something that has such limited repairs.  

Bringing it back slightly on topic.  A rear HT mg on a 50mm would be ridiculously OP.  Give me a mobile suppressing MG that only requires me to quickly spin around?  Why would I ever need scout cars when 50mm would provide more utility.  Or I could simply use two 50mm to cover themselves from both tanks and infantry.

[smurfORnot]

who says that it needs to be mg42 like one deploy able by inf or the one scout car has? P4... also has Mg42,and it is not even close to scout car mg.

but for a Marder's fuel cost you can fit almost 4 more 50mm HTs.

Just lol,this is even better than that Tym's post :p
Marder - 150fuel
50mm - 50 fuel
Simple math says 50x3 =150,thus making it exactly you be able to fit 3 50mm instead of marder fuel wise(though you will spend over 400mun compared to marder's 30  ),not 3.1 nor 3.2 and surely not almost 4,lol 

[Uglysori]

who says that it needs to be mg42 like one deploy able by inf or the one scout car has? P4... also has Mg42,and it is not even close to scout car mg.

Just lol,this is even better than that Tym's post :p
Marder - 150fuel
50mm - 50 fuel
Simple math says 50x3 =150,thus making it exactly you be able to fit 3 50mm instead of marder fuel wise(though you will spend over 400mun compared to marder's 30  ),not 3.1 nor 3.2 and surely not almost 4,lol 

You're right.  I was typing this reply at work and I remembered the marder at being 190 fuel.  Pt still stands even if its a 3 to 1 ratio.  At least for my Co, even with 3 fuel advantages, fuel is still more precious than munitions.  I wasn't even thinking about the Scout Car MG.  I was thinking of the normal HT mg which still surpresses pretty well and which was an unlock on the rear for Munitions HTs at one pt for Luft.  The Scout Car MG locked-down is of course better but I'll take a mobile mg combined with a solid AT platform every time.  I mean I guess you can give it the P4 hull mg or turret MG but I still don't see how it's warranted.   

[NightRain]

Why do you people think I want HMG42 on 50mms rear when I wanted a simple P4 like mg in it? Or halftrack mg which ain't that bad either, mostly suppresses. Gives it Some defence against small arms.

[Uglysori]

Halftrack MG would on the back of the 50mm would be too good.  Isn't technically your defense against small arms your speed?  Hey if ppl want to buff the 50mm I am not going suddenly stop utilizing 50mms but has gameplay changed so much that 50mm suddenly warrant a new buff? 

[Hicks58]

The 50mm really doesn't need a MG on it's back. If you want to do something to the 50mm, give it about 20% more penetration to make it a consistent and mobile hitter while the Marder is an area denial weapon with it's lock down.

[TheVolskinator]

I agree with hicks. Putting an MG on the Stummel/50mm would just be...gay.

Yeah, you manage to catch a 50mm with it's pants down, the Axis player hurr dee durrs, turns around, and instapins you with the Stug MG of d00m, then unleashes 20 pop of G43 PGs on you. Yeah, I wanna play against that. How about 10 man KCH too? :|

[smurfORnot]

and I can already see that you didnt reed jack shit volky....

[Smokaz]

how about warmap

[smurfORnot]

[Smokaz]

ya'll invited to the super party when coh 2 comes out

[Masacree]

ya'll invited to the super party when coh 2 comes out

invite me smokey, we're bff's now

[Sachaztan]

how about warmap

It will be out soon, latest this Christmas.

[hans]

It will be out soon, latest this Christmas.

or christmas in two years