Smokaz
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« on: July 04, 2012, 10:27:05 am » |
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since when does this thing 2 shot the m10?  |
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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2012, 10:42:15 am » |
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Since never.
165 damage per shot. Range 60.
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2012, 10:42:58 am » |
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185*
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Ahnungsloser
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2012, 10:43:36 am » |
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Since never.
165 damage per shot. Range 60.
Not 185? |
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| NightRain
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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2012, 10:44:09 am » |
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185*
When did this happen? I remember Gwagon had same gun as Marder... |
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Smokaz
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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2012, 10:44:46 am » |
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ninja change
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Hicks58
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2012, 10:44:51 am » |
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185 damage per shot. No doctrines affect the damage of the Geschitz so the M10 would have to have lost 10 hp for it to die in 2 rounds.
2 Rounds deal 370 damage... M10 needs to have sustained 380 damage to fall victim to kill crits.
If something had so much as sneezed on the M10, then it would have fallen to 2 rounds. Vet 3 gives a damage buff and allows you to 2 shot M10's though.
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I mean I know Obama was the first one in EiR to get a card. and tbfh the Race card is pretty OP. but Romney has the K.K.K., those guys seem to camo anywhere. So OP units from both sides.
At the end of the day, however, stormtroopers finally got the anal invasion with a cactus they have richly deserved for years.
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2012, 10:46:59 am » |
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370 damage? dafuq is this shit...
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Ahnungsloser
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2012, 10:48:00 am » |
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Question:
Are they are any critical hits against vehicles for increased damage? *Like a for exmaple a headshot critical by infantry which insta-gibs a soldier*
I'm pretty sure that I read something about criticals against vehicles while I was lurking on some forums around. (Something like that the
RR have no criticals but the M9 Bazooka can roll a awesome critical if your lucky)
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Smokaz
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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2012, 10:50:20 am » |
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Geschutz should get a 0.8 or a 0.9 modifier vs m10 then.
Keep in mind how many modifiers have been removed from allied weapons vs inf ht, marder armor.
I dont think its fair for the geschutz to put out so much damage against a m10
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Hicks58
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2012, 10:53:29 am » |
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There are critical tables for every weapon.
You have green health criticals (100%-41%)
Yellow health criticals (5%-40%)
Red health criticals (under 5%)
Very few weapons have the ability to roll a kill critical at yellow or green health. An example of this would be a Sniper (Kills rely on crits, not damage), or a Flamethrower (Which has a 40% chance of killing at yellow health).
Detailing the critical tables of every weapon would take a *LONG* time. For the purposes of this argument however, the Geschitz is incapable of destroying/killing anything at yellow health via crits. It can only happen at red health.
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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2012, 10:57:05 am » |
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Geschutz should get a 0.8 or a 0.9 modifier vs m10 then.
Keep in mind how many modifiers have been removed from allied weapons vs inf ht, marder armor.
I dont think its fair for the geschutz to put out so much damage against a m10
I got better. Drop the gun to back to marder stats. Nonlockdown marder stats. |
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2012, 10:58:16 am » |
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geshutz is not so great, misses much, doesnt penetrate jumbos and some other tanks and you want it nerf it more? who will be playing them?
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skaffa
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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2012, 10:59:05 am » |
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Its actually pretty funny how bad the geschutz is at rotating.
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bad luck skaffa> creates best and most played eir maps
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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2012, 11:04:28 am » |
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what is reload again? 8 secs... yeah nerf it MOAR... lol
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Hicks58
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« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2012, 11:13:52 am » |
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The Geschitz is the gamblers TD.
If you penetrate, you do a fuck ton of damage. The problem however, is penetrating. Against the Sherman it has around 60% penetration without range modifiers applied.
On the flip side, it does have a 0.35 deflection modifier. If you bounce your still dealing 64.75 damage.
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« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2012, 11:20:24 am » |
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Plus, you get Rapid shells which gives you faster fire speed. Its only downfall is its darn rotation but aside from that it is a awsome TD piece. More powerful than a marder.
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Ahnungsloser
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« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2012, 11:26:11 am » |
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Such a high deflection modifier?
I mean, that's 15 Damage less that would a M4 Sherman deal against a skirtet PIV/Panther/StuG/StuH if it penetrates and the same amount of damage against a veterancy one of these. (I know the Sherman is not a tankdestroyer, but it's still in the same damage area)
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Smokaz
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« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2012, 11:44:38 am » |
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geshutz is not so great, misses much, doesnt penetrate jumbos and some other tanks and you want it nerf it more? who will be playing them?
Pretty much at fanatcism or heavy support company that wants to field additional at without using paks or shreks? You can have a big force of 4 man kch with fausts and pervitin pills backing a pure geschutz army? |
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« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2012, 11:50:21 am » |
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what is reload again? 8 secs... yeah nerf it MOAR... lol
This guy has a good point. Geschutes got slow ass reload. Very few weapons have the ability to roll a kill critical at yellow or green health. An example of this would be a Sniper (Kills rely on crits, not damage), or a Flamethrower (Which has a 40% chance of killing at yellow health).
I didnt know we had a new misinformation officer. Like half the weapons in the game can deal crits at green/yellow. And everything relies on crits. Without crits nothing would get killed. Such a high deflection modifier?
I mean, that's 15 Damage less that would a M4 Sherman deal against a skirtet PIV/Panther/StuG/StuH if it penetrates and the same amount of damage against a veterancy one of these. (I know the Sherman is not a tankdestroyer, but it's still in the same damage area)
Don't you understand what a tank destroyer is? Especialy one without high pen like the geschutz? Pretty much at fanatcism or heavy support company that wants to field additional at without using paks or shreks?
You can have a big force of 4 man kch with fausts and pervitin pills backing a pure geschutz army?
Then nerf 4 man KCH. Its not the geschutz that are the problem. |
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