Police brutality

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« Reply #40 on: August 22, 2012, 05:14:38 pm »

Quote from: PonySlaystation on August 22, 2012, 05:11:16 pm

He had a knife, better that they shot him than he stabbed someone. He was probably a serial killer on the loose.

afaik US police officers are issued plenty of less than lethal weapons.

In the video it looks like the officers panicked the moment one of them fired the first shot. This might explain why they fired 30+ shots but then it's pretty disturbing that they don't have the firing discipline they ought to have...


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Re: Police brutality

« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2012, 05:17:15 pm »

Quote from: PonySlaystation on August 22, 2012, 05:11:16 pm

He had a knife, better that they shot him than he stabbed someone. He was probably a serial killer on the loose.

yes pony,to disarm person with a knife you need 30/46 shoots just to be sure he isn't threat anymore Roll Eyes

hey,maybe we should arm police with rocket launcher,so when someone drives to fast,they can blow him instantly,because he is a threat to society!
dunno why do they have pistols,they should have machine guns for better crowd control,you never know who else in the crowd might be having a knife,so it's just best to gun everyone down,just to be sure,no one is threat to you!


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Re: Police brutality

« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2012, 05:17:53 pm »

Quote from: Baine on August 22, 2012, 05:08:54 pm

He had a mental sickness dude, give him his medicine and it helps. Unless I'm misstaken, police is not judge and executive.

The cops most likely did not know that at the time.


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Re: Police brutality

« Reply #43 on: August 22, 2012, 05:20:03 pm »

What does that change. Look at the situation. Total overkill.


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Hicks58 Offline

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Re: Police brutality

« Reply #44 on: August 22, 2012, 05:22:22 pm »

Watched the video.

Yeah, that was pretty much a public execution.

6 Guys and they are worrying about 1 guy with a knife? Really? Bitch please.

1 designated person puts a round to the leg. Job done. 1 Person distracts him, 2-3 restrain and detain without even firing a shot. Add a few more examples that don't involve filling the poor son of a bitch with 4 magazine's worth of fire.

If the guy actually had a firearm, or was in lethal distance of an innocent bystander with the knife? Fine. Put him down. But when he's pretty much surrounded and there is no risk of hitting civilians? Dafuq.


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Re: Police brutality

« Reply #45 on: August 22, 2012, 05:30:35 pm »

You have to understand that a person with a knife 20 feet away can be on top of you in a split second.

He refused to put down his weapon, now he pays for it, fairy tale ending tbh.

Isn't shooting crazy people with knives the reason we have a police force to begin with?


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Re: Police brutality

« Reply #46 on: August 22, 2012, 05:32:39 pm »

Quote from: hans on August 22, 2012, 05:10:59 pm

30 precise shots in the leg, sounds legit. GOOD JOB POLICE, U WASTE US MONEY FOR THAT...

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Re: Police brutality

« Reply #47 on: August 22, 2012, 05:33:01 pm »

Quite on the contrary, if you are full of adrenalin things will slow down for you, so a guy 20 feet away won't be on top of you "in a split second". Not even 4meters away.


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Re: Police brutality

« Reply #48 on: August 22, 2012, 05:33:43 pm »

Quote from: PonySlaystation on August 22, 2012, 05:30:35 pm

You have to understand that an person with a knife 20 feet away can be on top of you in a split second.

He refused to put down his weapon, now he pays for it, fairy tale ending tbh.

Isn't shooting crazy people with knives the reason we have a police force to begin with?

What the fuck are you smoking?

You know what. Can I have some?


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PonySlaystation Offline

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Re: Police brutality

« Reply #49 on: August 22, 2012, 05:35:34 pm »

Relevant link with more examples http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contagious_shooting


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Re: Police brutality

« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2012, 05:38:22 pm »

Quote from: PonySlaystation on August 22, 2012, 05:35:34 pm

Relevant link with more examples http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contagious_shooting

Yeah, we figured that much out already, and you know what?

THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD EXPECT POLICE OFFICERS, PEOPLE WE HAND GUNS, TO PROTECT, TO FUCKING NOT DO.
In case of a non officer opening fire first? Sure, BUT THE GUY HAD A KNIFE... You only made them look worse.


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The officer is considerably better than a riflemen squad at carrying weapons. Officers have good accuracy so they will hit most targets.

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Re: Police brutality

« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2012, 05:54:27 pm »

I will never ever shoot for a leg.

If someone is shooting at me, coming at me with a knife, or any such bullshit I'm shooting center mass. Drugs can and do keep people from stopping, adrenaline keeps people from stopping, when you shoot you shoot to kill.

TBH, police draw guns to prevent people from attacking in the first place. It is much more effective than the threat of a non-lethal and a bit more jail sentence. Especially since you never know what you will encounter.

Gun laws do not prevent anyone from owning a gun. Just like drug laws don't stop drugs and piracy laws don't stop you from downloading media. Unfortunately, even if a vehicle is registered to someone that is not a registered gun owner they can still be armed. I have friends in law enforcement, too many of their buddies have been shot or attacked when making routine traffic stops.


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Dnicee Offline

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Re: Police brutality

« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2012, 05:57:12 pm »

oh yeah, here you go.

please do not watch!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5fe_1345030088

start the video at 3 min or so

This cop could do it even when the guy was coming at him with a knife!

good cop!


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Dnicee Offline

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Re: Police brutality

« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2012, 06:01:39 pm »

then we have ampms way of doing things, seems legit....

this one is a bit worse so do not watch this one, guy dies.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d16_1344853536


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smurfORnot Offline

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Re: Police brutality

« Reply #54 on: August 22, 2012, 06:03:15 pm »

Quote from: Dnicee on August 22, 2012, 05:57:12 pm

how is this possible?
You can restrain person with a knife without emptying your entire clip into him?
you can restrain person without killing him?!?!?! This guy obviously failed in his police school. BAD COP! Good cop kills everyone who might be dangerous!


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AmPM

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Re: Police brutality

« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2012, 06:03:52 pm »

Quote from: Dnicee on August 22, 2012, 06:01:39 pm

then we have ampms way of doing things, seems legit....

this one is a bit worse so do not watch this one, guy dies.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d16_1344853536

Difference is, my training is military. Not civilian. I'm shooting for the chest.


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smurfORnot Offline

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Re: Police brutality

« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2012, 06:05:25 pm »

Quote from: Dnicee on August 22, 2012, 06:01:39 pm

then we have ampms way of doing things, seems legit....

this one is a bit worse so do not watch this one, guy dies.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d16_1344853536

well you know,chair IS serious cold weapon! He got what he deserved,he was probably 'chair' mass murderer!


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smurfORnot Offline

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Re: Police brutality

« Reply #57 on: August 22, 2012, 06:07:14 pm »

Quote from: AmPM on August 22, 2012, 06:03:52 pm

Difference is, my training is military. Not civilian. I'm shooting for the chest.

this is why you don't have army patrolling streets,but cops...who'd guessed ,right Roll Eyes


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DarkSoldierX Offline

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Re: Police brutality

« Reply #58 on: August 22, 2012, 06:10:45 pm »

Quote from: Dnicee on August 22, 2012, 05:57:12 pm

And every cop is fast and accurate enough to do this? I'm sure I read a article that said most cops haven't even shot a gun before training.


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DarkSoldierX Offline

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Re: Police brutality

« Reply #59 on: August 22, 2012, 06:14:00 pm »

Maybe I need to find that old video of the cop showing restraint against a guy at a traffic stop, that video were the cop ends up getting killed because he didn't want to take the first shot.


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