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[Spartan_Marine88]

okay, here is the deal, i know nothing about the stats, what i know is what i experience when playing...

Stats are very important, as without them it would be impossible to find a clear and effective way to balance them. And as you clearly have no clue how to operate corsix, you can't have any idea on the time it takes to do massive amounts of changes.

and im pretty sure someone wrote that they dont even bother anymore what the community says most of the time.

Listening to people like Nug for your information isn't a good way to get yourself heard in the forums. The higher ups have ALWAYS read and responded to well thought out balance posts.

Its my gut feeling and those of many others who tire of reading nonsense on the forums, that if you really want to argue something learn corsix *it takes a day* and bring actual stats up, especially since humans have the unfortunate tenancy to  remember the 5% of the time something unusual happens, over the 95% of the time that things work right.

M18 is a heavy tank?

[Hicks58]

except the m18 is also faster then all the axis tanks? can outrun a panther which is 600 mp and 450 fuel and is also a heavy tank with the purpose of being a tank destroyer? And its 14 pop and cost 40 fuel for skirts, 60 mun for repair

Now here is why you need to know statistics to make informed balance posts.

Yes, the M18 is faster than the Panther. However, the Panther has 47.5 range, whilst the M18 has 45. Any time the M18 can fire, the Panther can return fire. DPS against DPS, the Panther will tear apart the M18. It'll be heavily damaged at the end of it, but it'll do it. The M18 also has paper-thin armour. The M18 can bounce Panther armour, a problem the Panther does not have against the M18. Any round that it returns fire with WILL penetrate the M18's armour. If the M18 bounces a round (0.7 penetration rate, not including range) then the M18 is in some serious shit. With a 2 pop difference, the only feasible support that will be with the M18, is a pair of minesweepers.

You will only lose against an M18 if you do not apply yourself to the fight. That's it.

[RikiRude]

I'm going to skip reading everything.

If you are new to eirr expect to lose at least your first 20-30 games before you start to get decent, especially with the amount of stacking going on nowadays.

[aeroblade56]

Not once have i trolled in this mod or these forums.

PICCSSSSSS

[AmPM]

Btw, the Puma recieved a nerf as it recieved a double buff a while ago that made it over kill (it's MG was greatly improved, and it's movement accuracy was increased). So, they realised their mistake and reduced the movement accuracy. However, if you were to just take advantage of it's acceleration and stop it to shoot, it will tear things apart still. It's just that now you can't keep it moving without a penalty (which everything has). Though, if you keep it moving you get the bonus of it being hard to hit.

That's why they nerfed it.

The standard Puma was still terrible even after those buffs, and is even worse now. The Upgun is the only one worth touching and even then, it may not be. It's defence comes from speed, but it can't fire on the move....actually, should nerf all LV's like that. .5 moving accuracy to all LVs!!!