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PonySlaystation
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[CW] Bofors 40mm
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November 18, 2012, 11:27:53 am »
At 295 Manpower 60 Munitions it's too cheap for it's performance.
Compared to the Leig it's cheaper (Leig is at 360 MP 100 MU), it requires no micromanagement, it's effective against a wider category of units (most vehicles), it costs less pop (Leig is 5 pop, Bofors is 4 pop) and is a T1 unlock compared to Leig (T3).
Gameplay-wise it should be made into a semi-mobile unit like the 17 pounder.
You don't see Defensive players running 10 MG bunkers or 10 Leigs, yet that's the norm for most RE companies, to use it as a mainline unit and it's just not balanced or good for gameplay due to said reason, being cheap, deadly and requiring very little or no management to succeed.
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Re: [CW] Bofors 40mm
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November 18, 2012, 11:54:09 am »
I'd be down for a price increase if it was mobile, but it isn't mobile, and it's easy to arty. And please post a replay of someone using more than 3, because I haven't seen anyone use more than that, so it's hard to imagine it being a bit OP.
Also not sure if you can really compare it to the leig? but I guess it's the closest unit to it.
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Re: [CW] Bofors 40mm
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November 18, 2012, 11:56:53 am »
10 Bofors. You've seriously seen somebody use 10 bofors in a company?
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Smokaz
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Re: [CW] Bofors 40mm
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November 18, 2012, 12:35:13 pm »
bofors op ?
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Re: [CW] Bofors 40mm
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November 18, 2012, 12:46:16 pm »
A balance post saying bofors is OP.
Now i've seen it all.
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Re: [CW] Bofors 40mm
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November 18, 2012, 12:57:31 pm »
Bofors op!!??
Pull the other one! xD
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PonySlaystation
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Re: [CW] Bofors 40mm
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November 18, 2012, 12:59:07 pm »
I never said it was OP, I said it was too cheap at 60 MU. It's much better than a Leig or MG bunker.
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Mysthalin
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Re: [CW] Bofors 40mm
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November 18, 2012, 01:44:10 pm »
The bofors is largely a psychological warfare unit that for some reason gets people to stop coming to a sector for no good reason. Unless they're PE with nothing but armored cars in their company. Then it's kind of understandable that the bofors would be scary. But otherwise? Don't really think the bofors is that great.
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RikiRude
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Re: [CW] Bofors 40mm
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November 18, 2012, 01:51:15 pm »
Quote from: Mysthalin on November 18, 2012, 01:44:10 pm
The bofors is largely a psychological warfare unit that for some reason gets people to stop coming to a sector for no good reason. Unless they're PE with nothing but armored cars in their company. Then it's kind of understandable that the bofors would be scary. But otherwise? Don't really think the bofors is that great.
same, i only field one in my RE company, sometimes I consider getting two, but then too often my single bofors will get no kills and I'll think that 60 mu is better spent towards a bren.
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terrapinsrock
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Re: [CW] Bofors 40mm
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November 18, 2012, 02:04:54 pm »
lol Bofors too cheap?
Not sure if serious or trolling.
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Re: [CW] Bofors 40mm
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November 18, 2012, 02:38:39 pm »
Please lord, let him be trolling.
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PonySlaystation
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Re: [CW] Bofors 40mm
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November 18, 2012, 02:57:16 pm »
60 MU is what MG nests costs and it's much better.
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Mysthalin
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Re: [CW] Bofors 40mm
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November 18, 2012, 04:26:44 pm »
MG nests do not cost 295 manpower, 4 popcap (IMO popcap >>> actual cost unless in extreme circumstances) and do not fail miserably at taking on more than 1 enemy squad.
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Re: [CW] Bofors 40mm
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November 19, 2012, 12:26:38 am »
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Re: [CW] Bofors 40mm
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November 19, 2012, 12:41:00 am »
new to using bofors. I dont find their anti inf ability all that impressive. too many times enemy inf just walks straight up to it. not taking much damage.
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RikiRude
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Re: [CW] Bofors 40mm
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November 19, 2012, 10:33:57 am »
Quote from: Poppi on November 19, 2012, 12:41:00 am
new to using bofors. I dont find their anti inf ability all that impressive. too many times enemy inf just walks straight up to it. not taking much damage.
you need an mg in a trench near the bofors, the combo is incredibly deadly, with an atg next to the whole thing, it's a great doom fort, just have to watch out for arty.
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Re: [CW] Bofors 40mm
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November 19, 2012, 10:50:32 am »
or mortar.. or sniper or 1 tank flank lol
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Re: [CW] Bofors 40mm
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November 19, 2012, 11:50:04 am »
Bofors deal their AI damage at max range. Should the enemy close in, you won't hit shit when aiming at infantry.
They key is to keep the infantry in the max range zone if you want to kill them with a Bofors. Ideally, you should just bring something else though, Bofors only really excel at tearing apart LV's.
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Smokaz
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Re: [CW] Bofors 40mm
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November 19, 2012, 12:42:22 pm »
bofors needs to be able to shoot through vickers mg nests, tbh, so you can doomfort
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puddin
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Re: [CW] Bofors 40mm
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November 19, 2012, 05:22:14 pm »
bofors is increadably deadly. Its weakness is its reload time. I played against 2 or 3 of them and at times it felt a little bullshit. i had to use 3 otchkiss stukas and 2 double shreck falls to kill one off. It took the hotchkiss to near death, killing its main gun, and killed off 2 guys before i was able to kill it.
i would say a pop cap to 5 is worth it. Not a huge change but enough. it its deadly strong and much similar to an 88. If you get in its range it has the opportunity to be deadly. If you do,t it is area denial.
I would like to see hold fire on the bofors and 88 tho. So that way peopel can get close enough before you begin to unload on them.
the reasoning for a pop cap increase, Pe are shreded by it, the only thing that won;t be is a panther and a front facing p4ist. Wher, only their stug and up. ostwin will take penetrating shots i think. So it has a very wide variety.
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