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RikiRude
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M10 vs M18
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December 02, 2012, 01:53:13 am »
I see SOME people using M10s, and sometimes I'll throw an odd M10 into my company because of FU restrictions and such. But I feel like the M10 out DPSs the M18 with it's quicker reload, or maybe it's because I actually get a chance to land the second shot before what im trying to hit escapes or gets out of range.
Which do you prefer and why?
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Re: M10 vs M18
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December 02, 2012, 03:01:19 am »
weigh the pros and cons. i use the m18 and think they are far superior for the price.
You get better penetration, speed,sight,health.
Its much easier to kite with a m18.
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Re: M10 vs M18
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December 02, 2012, 04:16:55 am »
i like m10s more cuz of krush but lately u will not see a lot m10s cuz no1 uses p4s so why u need m10 if axis are forced to rely on heavy tanks? p4s cant compete efectively at curent meta so logicaly and m10s lost its duty killing p4s + m18 looks like allways hits axis LVs since m10 misses quite a lot
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Re: M10 vs M18
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December 02, 2012, 05:32:42 am »
M10's and M18's have exactly the same accuracy...
M18's are much more consistent in their performance, they'll do good against all armoured targets so long as the user has competent micro.
M10's on the other hand specialise at taking down medium and light targets due to the faster reload. To take on heavy targets, high level micro is required as frontal shots aren't worth a dime on Panthers/Tigers and above. Not only that, the M10 has 100 less health meaning it'll need external help with the juicier targets or simply get out-DPS'd.
M10's are good, they just aren't shining in the current meta.
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Re: M10 vs M18
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December 02, 2012, 02:44:08 pm »
I'd imagine theyd work well with infantry centric companies (derp) just like in years past. Buffed infantry (rifles, AB, AB rifles) aimed at AI performance backed up by your (rare) atg and a mixed bag of M10s and Shermans. The Sherman has worked well for me in the current meta, even though it's pretty much outclassed by all of the Panthers/KTs roaming about. With some M10s in the van, a Sherman+M10 pair would be a worthwhile combo (IMHO) when the popcap is available.
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Re: M10 vs M18
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December 02, 2012, 03:00:57 pm »
Up price of m18 a bit in the fuel department and you will see m10 more. Probably players when they look at it now they are thinking they are getting a bit too much for their fuel with m18 over m10, cause m10 has always been really good and popular.
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Re: M10 vs M18
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December 02, 2012, 03:02:58 pm »
Balance is bad, otherwise you would have P4's being used enough to have people take M10's...unless M18's are so much better that there is no reason to even take an M10 for that.
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Smokaz
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Re: M10 vs M18
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December 02, 2012, 03:04:55 pm »
It's not like that (run dmc), AMPM.
Maybe pop could be looked at as well, when you think about it the firefly and the m18 are really close to each other in role and performance now but youre shelling out the cct pop (2) for the FF and not the m18.
10 pop vs 14 pop would be more of a decision, aka you wouldn't bring out the 4 extra pop just to "own" p4s with m18s.
Just some thoughts
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PonySlaystation
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Re: M10 vs M18
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December 02, 2012, 03:47:04 pm »
M18 is far superior. More health = easier to maintain vet and repair it. That and a the m18 has higher front penetration so no need to flank and risk your unit.
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Re: M10 vs M18
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December 02, 2012, 04:51:48 pm »
its nice though because with a m10 if you want vet you have to baby it so much. with a m18 you can be a little bit rougher.
But Hicks hit the nail on the head, no P4's or stugs running around no reason to take m10's.
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Re: M10 vs M18
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December 02, 2012, 06:31:22 pm »
Quote from: aeroblade56 on December 02, 2012, 04:51:48 pm
But Hicks hit the nail on the head, no P4's or stugs running around no reason to take m10's.
even then a properly microd stug can take on a m10 and live, and a p4 can deal its damage and escape
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Re: M10 vs M18
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December 03, 2012, 09:41:33 am »
M10s have an in my opinion easier squish rate and slide movement than m18s, plus the hit box is smaller making scatter less likely to hit you, but, the m18 as most ppl point out has more pros if at long range frontal pen, plus you can camo and repair which is always nice.
Also 2 of them with 50 cal upgrade will shred most pe vech.
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Re: M10 vs M18
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Quote from: Heartmann on December 03, 2012, 09:41:33 am
Also 2 of them with 50 cal upgrade
Is total fucking overkill.
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aeroblade56
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Re: M10 vs M18
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December 03, 2012, 11:32:32 am »
i see no reason to take that 50 cal. if you get close enough to infantry to make that usefull then you deserve to get tread broke.
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hans
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Re: M10 vs M18
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December 03, 2012, 03:00:52 pm »
well that were times as i made a vet 3 hellcat in one game.
i prefer hellcat. but for dirty little jobs the m10 is in the right hands enough
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