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[LiquiDeath]

u shouldnt post after rageinflicted game

[XIIcorps]

u shouldnt post after rageinflicted game

if im having trouble with them against average players what hope do I have against higherskilled ones

[Hicks58]

Croms really need flank speed back at vet0.

They really don't.

[Shabtajus]

if im having trouble with them against average players what hope do I have against higherskilled ones

than you should rethink ya skill level lol

[XIIcorps]

Screw you guys im going home

[Mysthalin]

Croms need to have permanent flank speed at vet 1 to make up for losing temporary flank speed at vet 0.

[Uglysori]

Croms need to have permanent flank speed at vet 1 to make up for losing temporary flank speed at vet 0.

The utter silliness that would occur after such a change would be hard to imagine.

[TheIcelandicManiac]

Croms need to have permanent flank speed at vet 1 to make up for losing temporary flank speed at vet 0.

MMMmmmm, i miss my passive overdrive ACs.
yo i heard you liked a 25% speed boost+overdrive.

[Hicks58]

Croms need to have permanent flank speed at vet 1 to make up for losing temporary flank speed at vet 0.

Sure, let's just give them 0.2 moving accuracy to compensate, lol.

[mrshark]

Tiger is now useless again.

[tank130]

Tiger is now useless again.

It is these detailed posts that really help.................

[XIIcorps]

Tiger is now useless again.

with 40 range and 4 speed its hard to use offensively off roads.

45 range would offset this without being op tbh

While still being 15 range shy of counter firing at atgs, ffs

[Hicks58]

Tiger is now useless again.

Elaborate.

[AmPM]

Elaborate.

Most likely he is referring to the low accuracy while moving, the now shorter range, and reduced speed. It is outranged by most AT assets, requiring it to take HP loss constantly, it cannot support a push, and it is easily gang banged by a couple cheap M10's unless you have massive AT support...which leaves it the only thing to stop infantry rushes.

I think heavy tanks were fine at 45 range, but needed accuracy reverted and the Tiger needed it's speed lowered. It gave it the ability to fight back. Right now, it's a less good, more expensive Pershing, and if you are Wehr you should just play Terror and get the KT instead.

[Bear]

if tiger should be bs like yet, give him much more firepower, than its like in real, now its just bs and thats all...

[Hicks58]

Most likely he is referring to the low accuracy while moving, the now shorter range, and reduced speed. It is outranged by most AT assets, requiring it to take HP loss constantly, it cannot support a push, and it is easily gang banged by a couple cheap M10's unless you have massive AT support...which leaves it the only thing to stop infantry rushes.

I think heavy tanks were fine at 45 range, but needed accuracy reverted and the Tiger needed it's speed lowered. It gave it the ability to fight back. Right now, it's a less good, more expensive Pershing, and if you are Wehr you should just play Terror and get the KT instead.

The only valid point you have there is the accuracy whilst moving, the Tiger's speed is more than capable of performing any task it needs to do, it just makes it extremely micro intensive due to having to choose between moving or shooting. It *Can* do stop-start kiting, but at the moment it requires heavy levels of micro.

The range increase allowed it to take on units it shouldn't be able to consistently (Notably US TD's), and any other AT assets already outranged it. It also made it pretty much immune to HHAT - Even without the speed a 45 range Tiger would still comfortably shit on any form of HHAT due to having enough speed to kite (Yes, 4 is enough when infantry run at 3, and the absence of readily available fire-up makes sprinting infantry much rarer for offensive options). There's literally no risk involved, just nom nom nom to your heart's content.

The Tiger is DESIGNED to take HP loss. That's why it has such a massive pool of it (1200), the option is there to trade HP for the ability to drive up to any single target (That isn't a TD) and wreck it.

It cannot stop a dual M10 rush unless you have massive AT support. lol. A single shreck hovering near the Tiger will shutdown a dual M10 rush as the M10's will need full health on both tanks to pull it off. A single pak will do it, shit, one of anything that'll get through M10 armour (And it doesn't take much) will save your ass.

I'm getting this feeling that people want the Tiger to be a wonder-tank.

[tank130]

I'm getting this feeling that people want the Tiger to be a wonder-tank.

That's cuz you gave it to them and then took it away....LOL

But seriously, maybe we should just try changing the moving accuracy and see if makes a good change. We know we can just revert it back if it fails.

[nikomas]

*Cough* Historically the Panther was a better tank than the Tiger *Cough*

[Bear]

*Cough* Historically the Panther was a better tank than the Tiger *Cough*

why is than not the tiger a standard tank and a panther must do unlock by doctrine?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3slnEXOoSo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWKfpOtFtBc

[chefarzt]

WOOOT! Finally a vid showing tigers kill shermans.
Inb4 Ratte pic.