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[XIIcorps]

Just pouring over some of the RGD's and noticed a few irregularities.

M10 cost 300mp 220fu
Achillies cost 320mp 230fu

Max speed
M10 7.2
Ach 6.5

Penetration    M10            Achillies
Distant          0.84             0.85
Long             0.84             0.85
Medium          0.92             0.92
Short              1                  1


Reload     M10      Achillies
              4.2        5.8

Range     45           50

Damage  M10       Achillies
            112.5       125

HP, Armor type and Acc are all the same.

My question is,does the 20mp and 10fu justify the 0.01 increased pen at distant/long range. And does it justify the .7 reduced speed ?
Granted it get 5m more range, but this is rendered almost moot by the speed decrease.

[Hicks58]

Take one quick look at the target tables between the two unit's weapons, promptly face palm yourself hard enough to break your nose, and then walk away.

[Mister Schmidt]

I'm not really in a position to comment on balance at the moment, so back from when I was very active I'm going here, I wouldn't say +5 range is rendered moot, that's a lot for an AT weapon. Firefly's are still 55 right? 50 doesn't seem too bad for that price to me.

That's all I'll say on the matter though.

[XIIcorps]

Take one quick look at the target tables between the two unit's weapons, promptly face palm yourself hard enough to break your nose, and then walk away.

Palm, in my zombie like state i looked at the M10 gun twice......

That speed tho, why

[Hicks58]

Because you've got a 6.5 speed Firefly gun.

[nikomas]

Put another way...

An M10 gets a firefly gun (-5 range) for 20mp and 10f with a small speed nerf, seems awfully cheap looked at like that.


Honestly the acchie is one of my favourite units, just because it's incredibly cost effective in the art of kiting.

[XIIcorps]

well i dont feel the speed nerf is warrented.
and i dont have the money to change that.

feelz

[nikomas]

Compare it to the hellcat...

Look how sad you made the hellcat by comparing them, you monster!

[XIIcorps]

Compare it to the hellcat...

Look how sad you made the hellcat by comparing them, you monster!

But Killies is limited in uses, Hellkitties are unlockable, Have mines(see little use) , Camo, and AI ability.


But im just glad to see such a quick rebuttle about this unit, even if it was a barrage of flak.

[GrayWolf]

But Killies is limited in uses, Hellkitties are unlockable, Have mines(see little use) , Camo, and AI ability.


But im just glad to see such a quick rebuttle about this unit, even if it was a barrage of flak.

Hellcat'ss AI ability

[nikomas]

But Killies is limited in uses, Hellkitties are unlockable, Have mines(see little use) , Camo, and AI ability.


But im just glad to see such a quick rebuttle about this unit, even if it was a barrage of flak.

I dont think anyone wants to flak perse, but the hellcat is absolutely terrible vs inf and the camo is very situational, my point was that most people would take the achillies over the cat, not least because it's way cheaper but has the same hitting power and durability.

I personally never sell them for that reason, it's one of the more useful reward units in my book. Not super special or anything, but very efficient.

[XIIcorps]

Hellcat'ss AI ability

I didn't say it was effective, but it does exist and more so the  the chillies.

I dont think anyone wants to flak perse, but the hellcat is absolutely terrible vs inf and the camo is very situational, my point was that most people would take the achillies over the cat, not least because it's way cheaper but has the same hitting power and durability.

I personally never sell them for that reason, it's one of the more useful reward units in my book. Not super special or anything, but very efficient.

yeh couldn't agree more. Im just a goose trying to interpret coh rgds. Why couldn't it be dow1 dammit.