TheDeadlyShoe
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« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2009, 12:54:04 am » |
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2009, 01:08:07 am » |
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Panther (0.3)
-Vet1 Received Damage 0.9
-Vet2 Accuracy 1.15, Received Damage 0.9, Range +10
-Vet3 Received Penetration 0.9, Range +10
Is this a typo? Or am I missing something here?
Panthers a pretty overpriced tank anyways, if you can get one to vet 3, by all means it should be good. |
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sgMisten
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« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2009, 01:09:15 am » |
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If my new PE company still fails I'd toy around with the idea of a vetted 55/65 range Panther with a Wehrmacht company. Mobile AT-gun, oh yes!
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2009, 01:09:55 am » |
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If my new PE company still fails I'd toy around with the idea of a vetted 55/65 range Panther with a Wehrmacht company. Mobile AT-gun, oh yes!
Wehr panther doesn't get the range bonus, your dreams have been dashed.  |
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Malevolence
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« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2009, 01:10:59 am » |
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Yeah Wehr panther vet still isn't quite good enough to justify buying one in my opinion...
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sgMisten
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« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2009, 05:40:11 am » |
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Oh well. Guess only 20/20 vision tank gunners are accepted into the Panzer Elite. The myopic guys get shunted into Wehrmacht. Well Wehr has the Tiger Ace. Iffy iffy.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2009, 10:31:07 am » |
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Wehr Panther vet = survivability Panther (0.3)
-Vet1 Received Damage 0.9
-Vet2 Penetration 1.1, Accuracy 1.15, Received Damage 0.9
-Vet3 Speed 1.2, Received Penetration .8
PE Panther = Mobile AT gun for lack of at gun. Panther (0.3)
-Vet1 Received Damage 0.9
-Vet2 Accuracy 1.15, Received Damage 0.9, Range +10
-Vet3 Received Penetration 0.9, Range +10
pene increase on WePanther looks silly but it makes it better vs pershing and the big engineering tanks. then it gets a speed bonus plus received penetration bonus at vet 3 and speed, so then its just nasty....i'd hate to see a vetted wehr panther in the hands of someone who can really micro. |
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« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2009, 11:00:59 am » |
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Wehr Panther vet = survivability Panther (0.3)
-Vet1 Received Damage 0.9
-Vet2 Penetration 1.1, Accuracy 1.15, Received Damage 0.9
-Vet3 Speed 1.2, Received Penetration .8
PE Panther = Mobile AT gun for lack of at gun.
Panther (0.3)
-Vet1 Received Damage 0.9
-Vet2 Accuracy 1.15, Received Damage 0.9, Range +10
-Vet3 Received Penetration 0.9, Range +10
pene increase on WePanther looks silly but it makes it better vs pershing and the big engineering tanks. then it gets a speed bonus plus received penetration bonus at vet 3 and speed, so then its just nasty....i'd hate to see a vetted wehr panther in the hands of someone who can really micro. managed to get 800xp panther with Pe but wehr is down right evil at vet 3. its gonna be pretty hard to get it at the point. |
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salan
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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2009, 11:29:20 am » |
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how many PE panthers would any of you see pre patch?
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RikiRude
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« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2009, 12:00:56 pm » |
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enough to count on 1 hand lol.
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« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2009, 12:05:37 pm » |
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With the new PE Panther you will benefit extremely well from a forward positioned Kettenkrad. Might as well call out the Vet PE Panther and Ket in the same call-in.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2009, 12:12:21 pm » |
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how many PE panthers would any of you see pre patch?
i just played against one yesterday but yea, i've seen quite a few actually. i think we'll see more with the bonuses as people start putting it into pe fuel. |
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« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2009, 12:29:58 pm » |
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Why would PE not have a panther? Its their only decent AT
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« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2009, 01:35:18 pm » |
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Screw the panther... it's all about Marders dude.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2009, 01:46:58 pm » |
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Why would PE not have a panther? Its their only decent AT
schreck? marder? atht? only decent at? :-p |
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« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2009, 02:10:27 pm » |
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Regeneration: Did you guys forget to include basic regeneration on v1 for most of the Axis infantry?
Panther: Why is the vet not the same and why is the PE vet so much better???
Tiger Ace: Level 2 cost 4pp and level 3 cost 5pp. Why would anyone pay that for 5% buffs??? I know that you want to give each unit the same amount of HP buff but this fails when you figure into account that you pay much more for the Ace.
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« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2009, 02:16:34 pm » |
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You are giving a tank that is faster, nimbler, and better-armored than any tank out there (with the exception of the M10) enough range to kite a Firefly. Besides the other bonuses added on top of that...I can't see the reasoning behind this at all.
Vet sure as hell should not balance flawed costs, not to that extent.
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« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2009, 02:17:24 pm » |
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Regeneration: Did you guys forget to include basic regeneration on v1 for most of the Axis infantry?
Panther: Why is the vet not the same and why is the PE vet so much better???
Tiger Ace: Level 2 cost 4pp and level 3 cost 5pp. Why would anyone pay that for 5% buffs??? I know that you want to give each unit the same amount of HP buff but this fails when you figure into account that you pay much more for the Ace.
cos the ace was reduced to 6pp |
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« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2009, 02:19:31 pm » |
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Screw the panther... it's all about Marders dude.
meh, i use tets as my main tanks, your marders cant touch me. |
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salan
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« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2009, 02:21:33 pm » |
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Regeneration: Did you guys forget to include basic regeneration on v1 for most of the Axis infantry?
did not forget, they don't get it. Their med packs are now timer. Panther: Why is the vet not the same and why is the PE vet so much better???
that's subjective. Tiger Ace: Level 2 cost 4pp and level 3 cost 5pp. Why would anyone pay that for 5% buffs??? I know that you want to give each unit the same amount of HP buff but this fails when you figure into account that you pay much more for the Ace.
5% on a item that has HUGE stats is pretty even with 10-15% on something that has smaller stats, tiger ace got a PP cost increase as well on its base cost. |
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