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Author Topic: Pak38, the Root of All Evil  (Read 41846 times)
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« Reply #120 on: March 28, 2009, 07:58:09 am »

Decloaks after 1 shot and cant cloak while being shot at, all it needs Shocked
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« Reply #121 on: March 28, 2009, 08:02:42 am »

that you can snipe the pak38 with at57mm because you know that it will clearly loose without cloak?

just reduce the accuracy of AT guns against each other and lower the accuracy of all AT guns against scouting units...

problem solved
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« Reply #122 on: March 28, 2009, 08:07:04 am »

Clarifying again (Refer to mine and gamesguy's stats posts)

Pak38 does more DPS than 57mm
Pak38 and 57mm have same health
Both have same accuracy modifiers against each other

57mm will not win a duel against the Pak38. It is close to equal. The Pak38 actually has a better chance because it gets more shots off and can break through the 5% critical faster to get the kill.
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« Reply #123 on: March 28, 2009, 08:15:50 am »

that you can snipe the pak38 with at57mm because you know that it will clearly loose without cloak?

just reduce the accuracy of AT guns against each other and lower the accuracy of all AT guns against scouting units...

problem solved

Yet then the pak still has 3 cloaked shots so atleast 1 is bound to hit and you run back after those shots and just keep repeating
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« Reply #124 on: March 28, 2009, 08:23:10 am »

what is if it hit no other AT guns with its shots?

i mean you say pak38 is damn op because it snipes your AT gun...

instead of preventing AT gun sniping you will nerf its complete usage as anti tank weapon....


then be a man and say you cannot deal with a pak and you want cloaking removed that you can steamroll it with cheap tanks or drop arty onto it
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« Reply #125 on: March 28, 2009, 08:33:02 am »

clearly you have no idea how to use a pak if you think decloak after 1 shot makes it useless.

And i have no idea what this means

"what is if it hit no other AT guns with its shots?"
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« Reply #126 on: March 28, 2009, 09:01:11 am »

Clarifying again (Refer to mine and gamesguy's stats posts)

Pak38 does more DPS than 57mm
Uncloaked lol ?

Bigdick is right, the only issue that ever was a problem even before EIRR is pack sniping.

AmPM gave you people so many examples and strategies on what to do, yet you keep on disregarding what he says.
The truth is you're not going to get satisfied untill pak gets nerfed to hell.
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« Reply #127 on: March 28, 2009, 09:16:23 am »

That is true schultz, we won't stop, no matter what!

Nerf pak plz!
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« Reply #128 on: March 28, 2009, 09:25:43 am »

Clarifying again (Refer to mine and gamesguy's stats posts)

Pak38 does more DPS than 57mm
Uncloaked lol ?

No cloak, no first strike, no 3 cloak shots. Uncloaked pak vs 57mm with no AP rounds.

Debate whatever you guys want to debate, but let's make this clear. 57mm is NOT superior to a Pak38 even without cloak.
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« Reply #129 on: March 28, 2009, 09:31:36 am »

clearly you have no idea how to use a pak if you think decloak after 1 shot makes it useless.

US snipers are going to go back to 300mu and 0 availabilty if Paks decloak after the first shot lolz...
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« Reply #130 on: March 28, 2009, 10:59:12 am »

Whats unfortunate is its these same people that can't figure out how to play that are being consulted about mod balance as well.

Oh, I played a game as Allies last night vs Boobaka and Iggi. Yea, the PAKs died real easy.
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Two Offline
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« Reply #131 on: March 28, 2009, 01:50:42 pm »

clearly you have no idea how to use a pak if you think decloak after 1 shot makes it useless.

US snipers are going to go back to 300mu and 0 availabilty if Paks decloak after the first shot lolz...

Then why isnt the axis sniper right now, seeing as how 57mm doesnt cloak anyway. And post these replays where the paks die easily and point out how your opponents failed hard.
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« Reply #132 on: March 28, 2009, 02:03:14 pm »

Because the axis sniper is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooo easy to kill, being fire up/heroic charge the number one counter to it.
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« Reply #133 on: March 28, 2009, 02:10:27 pm »

Storms  Grin
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« Reply #134 on: March 28, 2009, 02:15:57 pm »

Two, anytime you win a game it means your opponent failed somewhere. Failing is why they lose. Nobody plays better than the other team and still loses.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #135 on: March 28, 2009, 02:28:05 pm »

lol thats a load of crap, pre EiRR if you had enough vet you'd beat people playing better then you.
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« Reply #136 on: March 28, 2009, 02:31:58 pm »

The Metagame is part of it too. Vet, Company composition, etc.

The game starts being played at the company screen.
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« Reply #137 on: March 28, 2009, 03:08:10 pm »

I have to agree with that AmPM but what you said before isn't true man, this is a team game so your team mate can in effect cost you a game from time to time.
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« Reply #138 on: March 28, 2009, 03:34:30 pm »

Picking your team is also part of the game though =)
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« Reply #139 on: March 28, 2009, 04:37:34 pm »

Which many people get angry about.
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