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« Reply #40 on: June 06, 2009, 03:41:20 pm » |
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schrecks dont penetrate well frontal MK armor
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RikiRude
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« Reply #41 on: June 06, 2009, 04:01:31 pm » |
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i think you misinterpreted what i said burn  and right there you only further prove the point we are making. the churchill isn't effective for it's cost, so it needs some kind of change. |
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Tymathee
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« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2009, 05:24:18 pm » |
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schrecks dont penetrate well frontal MK armor
oh noes! Now you know how we will with zook's vs well all tanks. |
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"I want proof!"
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"Whatever, I'm still right"
Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #43 on: June 06, 2009, 05:28:15 pm » |
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scheck vs churchhill pentration = 0.529 still better than zook vs p4. churchill is a heavy tank with a sucky gun. the churchill was an engineer tank, it was used to suck in fire from tanks, expose at guns and to clear obstacles. It's not meant to be a front line tank. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill_tank |
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #44 on: June 06, 2009, 05:35:05 pm » |
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Actualy, sucking up fire from enemy tanks, ATGs and clearing obstacles sounds a lot like a front line duty to me  . |
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Sharpshooter824
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« Reply #45 on: June 08, 2009, 10:20:57 am » |
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I realize what it does but for 12 pop cap (In battallion screen I heard its supposed to be 10..)
Anyway it really doesn't do a good job of absorbing fire rofl, yes in real life im sure it did a good job but there aren't exactly bunker spams out there for churchhills to take care of and one pak easily kills it so I really don't see the point in them, I think they are a cool tank just really pointless in EiR for cost and pop cap.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #46 on: June 08, 2009, 11:12:01 am » |
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Just wait till aloha comes in this thread, we'll hear stories of his single churchil omgwtf pwning 7 panthers and 3 KTs at once.
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« Reply #47 on: June 08, 2009, 11:15:46 am » |
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It does a good job in deflecting a lot of shots. It's hard to penetrate it with something else than a panther from my experience.
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Sharpshooter824
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« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2009, 11:39:17 am » |
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Who wants a tank that can just deflect some shots and with a one time repair kit really I see no point in the churchhill.. for EiR at least, maybe with 75mm upgun I might see a change..
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« Reply #49 on: June 08, 2009, 12:22:21 pm » |
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that are people who use fireflies from max distance to snipe enemy tanks or people that can counter mortars without heavy artillery
maybe one day you will belong to these people too
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Sharpshooter824
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« Reply #50 on: June 08, 2009, 12:28:12 pm » |
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Bigdick, you are as bad as aloha when it comes to personal attacks, THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW I COUNTER A MORTAR, ITS A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CHURCHHILL NEEDING A BUFF, a pro with a churchhill isn't going to find it much more effective then a noob with one so please.. stop posting on a thread you don't understand  And like i've said to aloha, post a replay of you wtfpwning everything with a super expensive pop cap heavy churchhill and I might believe it not needing a buff, all I was thinking is a maybe a little bit better splash damage or accuracy increased and reload time decreased a little bit to make it more effective at supporting infantry. |
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salan
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« Reply #51 on: June 08, 2009, 12:40:50 pm » |
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keep it calm, or dasnoob will visit you all!
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Sharpshooter824
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« Reply #52 on: June 08, 2009, 12:41:44 pm » |
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wahhh please no, tell him we're discussing this thread for politely!  |
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« Reply #53 on: June 08, 2009, 02:56:03 pm » |
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tbh, the AVRE does a far better job at soaking up damage, take down hedges and do some real damage to the enemy.  |
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If I get shot and it's a gay medic fixing me up, he's not gonna be fondling my balls while he does it. You can't patch a chest wound and suck a cock at the same time.
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« Reply #54 on: June 08, 2009, 07:35:24 pm » |
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tbh, the AVRE does a far better job at soaking up damage, take down hedges and do some real damage to the enemy. AVRE one shot decrews an 88 and takes the gun down to 100 hp. Its very useful these days. |
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RikiRude
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« Reply #55 on: June 09, 2009, 02:01:47 am » |
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my staghounds are way more cost effective and take up less pop then a churchhill. ill be furious if the upgun on it makes it nothing short of amazing. if the churchhill had a higher rof or some kind of mounted gun it would be great, you could probably put it at 8 pop and still not see it get used too often.
its funny because as axis when i see them ive never gone "aw crap a normal churchhill!"
also why is tank shock gone? you know what, if they just gave it a really high suppression from its gun instead of an actual tank shock upgrade that would work pretty great.
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« Reply #56 on: June 09, 2009, 02:15:04 am » |
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keep it calm, or dasnoob will visit you all!
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| Armfelt
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« Reply #57 on: June 09, 2009, 04:13:38 pm » |
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I recently purchased the churchill to try it, and I must say i fully regret it... It can´t hit the wall of a barn even if it was inside of it... Btw, after reading this thread, Aloha has become my new idol! |
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« Reply #58 on: June 09, 2009, 04:14:56 pm » |
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When you get the upgun it'll basically be a 10 pop tougher unupgunned sherman. How that is not going to be amazing is beyond me  . |
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| Armfelt
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« Reply #59 on: June 09, 2009, 04:21:36 pm » |
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When you get the upgun it'll basically be a 10 pop tougher unupgunned sherman.
I'll keep my fingers crossed  I will try it when the upgun is complete. (And just a quick/noob question... Why ain´t the "Tank schock" ability implemented). |
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