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MittinsKittens
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Defensive Officer
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May 12, 2011, 12:24:28 pm »
I'm curious about something about the Officer.
Why is it that hes the only kind of officer that cant pick up dropped weapons, is there an actual balanced reason for this? Since it seems a bit odd the the wehr officer cant pick up dropped weapons when all the allied ones can pick whatever they like up.
Also, what happened to his STG-44 when he got to vet 2 or 3?
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smurfORnot
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Re: Defensive Officer
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May 12, 2011, 12:33:07 pm »
he used to have rape machine luger
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MittinsKittens
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Re: Defensive Officer
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May 12, 2011, 01:00:15 pm »
His Luger can be pretty rapey if need to be. Like, I managed to chase and kill at 1/4 life with just an officer.
Would still like to have an STG-44 (would pay MU if needed) and I'd like to be able to pick up weapons like the other officers. I feel its slightly unfair that my officer can be in some 1v1 with a bar in between us and he can pick it up but I can't
Its not even like its an balance issue. Its not like he's going to pick up and get and start raping armies with it :s
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smurfORnot
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Re: Defensive Officer
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May 12, 2011, 01:03:59 pm »
before it was like,look! airborne squad,pfpfpfpfp ...few second later,whole squad dead,lol
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Hicks58
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Re: Defensive Officer
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May 12, 2011, 01:13:08 pm »
Tbf, Officers with stolen weaponry are pretty rape.
Put a Captain with LMG42/BAR/Bren in heavy cover and watch what happens. xD
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Mgallun74
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Re: Defensive Officer
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May 12, 2011, 01:18:23 pm »
i thing they could have just hard capped officers, but to make their ART 1 usage was dork imho.. why pay 100mun for 1 drop?? if somebody wants to use 100+ mun on a single guy who can drop a killer ART every 5min or so go for it... only takes 1 lucky art shell, or motar shot or something to kill it.. i never had a problem with them.
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Mister Schmidt
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Re: Defensive Officer
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May 12, 2011, 01:19:32 pm »
wtf are you talking about?
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EliteGren
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Re: Defensive Officer
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May 12, 2011, 01:21:56 pm »
Quote from: Mgallun74 on May 12, 2011, 01:18:23 pm
i thing they could have just hard capped officers, but to make their ART 1 usage was dork imho.. why pay 100mun for 1 drop?? if somebody wants to use 100+ mun on a single guy who can drop a killer ART every 5min or so go for it... only takes 1 lucky art shell, or motar shot or something to kill it.. i never had a problem with them.
1. Officers are hard capped
2. Offmap is on recharge
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Mgallun74
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Re: Defensive Officer
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May 12, 2011, 01:22:48 pm »
Quote from: EliteGren on May 12, 2011, 01:21:56 pm
1. Officers are hard capped
2. Offmap is on recharge
shows you how long ago i last used one, i had used them when they made change to 1 time drop.?
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skaffa
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Re: Defensive Officer
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May 12, 2011, 01:26:13 pm »
Quote from: Hicks58 on May 12, 2011, 01:13:08 pm
Tbf, Officers with stolen weaponry are pretty rape.
Funny you say that I just had a US officer with 2x schrecks lol.
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Mgallun74
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Re: Defensive Officer
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May 12, 2011, 01:29:41 pm »
Quote from: skaffa on May 12, 2011, 01:26:13 pm
Funny you say that I just had a US officer with 2x schrecks lol.
lol, nice... i had one with a bren and a bar last night
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Hicks58
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Re: Defensive Officer
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May 12, 2011, 01:31:59 pm »
Captain + LMG42 = death of any enemy support weapon when used correctly. Which is pretty damned epic for one man. He'll hold off an entire Volks/PzGren squad at max range (Not kill, hold off) for a good while too if you give him heavy cover or a building.
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TheVolskinator
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Re: Defensive Officer
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May 12, 2011, 01:58:16 pm »
IMO, WM Officer should be re-buffed. Its not like hes impossible to kill. And let him have an (improved statistically) MP40 upgrade for like 10 munis; mp44 is a bit far I think.
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MittinsKittens
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Re: Defensive Officer
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May 12, 2011, 03:06:28 pm »
See, this is why not being able to pick up a weapon is a piss take
And I be totally down for paying for a automatic weapon for him :3
Paying for the barrage on the officer is worth it in my opinion. I've managed to wipe whole opening squads with it. Also used it to force 2+ squads of rangers/airbourne/mandos off the map which makes up for its cost in ONE barrage
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Tymathee
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Re: Defensive Officer
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May 12, 2011, 03:23:15 pm »
def officer is pretty hard to kill, they have 140 health. capts and lt's have 65 and always seem to die to panther, p4 or stug shots lol. Captains already have a very good bonus which is better than the LT (since it adds damage as well) and as mortar barrage comes down the officer can move right away unlike capt which has to stand there (FOO forward observed officer artillery) so i dunno, i think it's quite fair. i've chased down and killed un-upgraded rifle squads with my officer b4, quite hilarious.
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smurfORnot
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Re: Defensive Officer
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May 12, 2011, 03:27:25 pm »
Quote
and as mortar barrage comes down the officer can move right away unlike capt which has to stand there
but FOO is much more deadly.
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MittinsKittens
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Re: Defensive Officer
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May 12, 2011, 06:09:57 pm »
Yep. They defiently are. I remeber the bren/ captain combo. That was so lame.
You button a tank (the bigger the better) and then you get the captain to FOO it. Usually destroyed the tank or completely and utterly crippled it…
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EliteGren
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Re: Defensive Officer
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May 13, 2011, 08:40:31 am »
There is a reason why we split the american officer into 2 guys and halfed his HP and why the MP44 for the Defensive Officer and the Terror Officer were removed. We don't want 1 man rambo units soloing squads by themselves, its too broken. They are supposed to support your mainline infantry and act as a support unit in general, and not kill squads by themselves.
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MittinsKittens
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Re: Defensive Officer
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May 13, 2011, 08:49:06 am »
Fair enough. I just wanted a bigger gun for him so he can defend himself in a pinch. I completely understand not making Rambo however, Just be nice to be able to shoot a gun that has some presence to it, but yeah, Completely understand if you don't want to allow that. I'm even completely happy to ignore the fact that the LT, US Officers and I THINK the Captain all get automatic weapons xD
What DOESN'T make sense is why is the defensive officer the only dude that can't pick up weapons off the field, Every other officer on the battle field seems to have the ability too. Hell, as mentioned in this thread earlier, its entirely possible for an US officer squad to get 2 Shreks and use them.
I don't see any reason for him not being able to, or am I missing something that means the Officer shouldn't be able to pick up guns?
Hell, I'm completely happy for the Officer being able to pick UP weapons and not be able to use them (Don't know how you would go about making the Luger the only guy he uses) so I can simply deny the enemy dropped shreks ect...
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Hicks58
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Re: Defensive Officer
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May 13, 2011, 12:28:48 pm »
Captain has a Webley.
Basically a Luger but without epic crits.
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