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[Smokaz]

Add in doctrine-specific infantry skins.

Armor doctrine riflemen:

[WildZontar]

YES!

[Vermillion_Hawk]

You know the only difference between the Easy 8 and any other 76mm armed Sherman was its suspension right?

Anyway, why should Allies get all sorts of stuff? Why don't Axis need new units too in your opinion?

E-75/KT 2 would be nice. Sturmtiger, Panther 2, Flammpanzer III, Nashorn (on its way as a reward unit already), Maus, Ratte, Dicker Max, Elephant, etc could all be put in.

Personally, I think we have enough options in the light and heavy range.

I still think, uniquely flavored infantry units that are not OMG WTFPWN in a normal firefight are the way to go. French Resistance with Satchels/booby traps, Polish Para's, Romanian and Italian units, Dutch underground, Foreign SS troops, like Wiking. Ghurka, Indian, Japanese American troops would all be cool.

There is sooo much to draw on for units that does not require things that change the dynamics of each side.

Axis already get a crapload of new toys in EiR, which explains the focus on the Allies

[Smokaz]

I want a KCH skin with the officer white hat.

[nikomas]

Axis already get a crapload of new toys in EiR, which explains the focus on the Allies

Allied toys as far as I remember in EIR...

Jumbo's, American Officer, Comet, T20, Airborne Riflemen, Airborne Sniper, Commando Sniper, Captured Panther, Airborne Medic, Commando Officer (?), Assault Engineers, Sluggers, Marines, Achilles TD, ANZAC's, 95mm Cromwell, 75mm GMC, Canadian Infantry (?).

And I'm not even counting the unit changers like the American armor HE sherman mode, basically making it fire like a stuh.
Or maybe the boys AT rifles for armor riflemen, or the LMG's for the airborne squads, I only count units here but damn are they toys as well, I believe the allies get more of that kind, although I dont know much about Brits.



Jagdpanzer IV, Sturmpanzer IV, Elite Grenadiers, Pak 40, 4-man KCH, Ambulance, 50mm AT-HT, Stummel (?), Jagdtiger, Panzer II, Support Grenadiers, Falls Marksman, FJ Tank Busters, FJ MG, Support Scout Car, Panzer Pioneers...

Again, not counting ability and equipment mods, either way, It seems to me that allies have just as much, if not more new crap that I dont remember from Vcoh than the allies do...

Hell, speaking as a blitz player primarily all blitz units are exist in vanilla as far as I remember.

[nikomas]

Anyway, My suggestion the other day for one of the units would be a grenadier unit... as in, a grenade throwing unit...

But I agree on the nio more camo stuff, so make it a sprinter, this unit would only get pistols and it would always sprint, fairly easy to suppress and not that resilient but with a good -25/30% to hit while running, it would be a light, 3 man squad with cheaper grenades than your average unit and access to a wide range of them...

Would maybe throw grenades in pairs of two.

Balance out cost and health, and there is unique, potentially useful unit that's not just a clone of another one, but without requiring new models.

[LeoPhone]

I want a KCH skin with the officer white hat.

captain of the bismarck 

[TheVolskinator]

New units can be added, so long as serious effort is given into actualy balancing said units, not just abusing them until someone nerfs the unit into oblivion (See: Stummel, Nebelwerfer).

[Vermillion_Hawk]

And for the record nikomas, Canadian Infantry were already in VCoH.

[nikomas]

Hence the question mark. Point still stands as I'm sure I forgot a unit or two for both sides, given I rarely play brits or PE.
Still, saying that axis got the majority of cool toys is not correct, and simply makes me think you like to play allies more and hence want more stuff there, but that's irrelevant.

Basically, the cool unit ration is pretty damn even.

[Mister Schmidt]

So much lol in this thread

[TheVolskinator]

So much lol in this thread

And the dev/unit creator/editor has nothing productive to post...

[Mister Schmidt]

Nothing else here is productive, just funny

[alexthesoldier]

Hell if the Panzer Maus VII and Ratte been put forward I will put forward this beast the T28 SHT.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T28_Super_Heavy_Tank

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kO5IsVHlTo

Designed to counter the Maus VII

[WildZontar]

Add in doctrine-specific infantry skins.

Armor doctrine riflemen:

This is the only good idea in this thread.

[Vermillion_Hawk]

Thanks for your infinitely useful input Zontar.

[Mister Schmidt]

still a lol thread

+1 zontar

[deadbolt]

again to post count (heya)

[deadbolt]

Add in doctrine-specific infantry skins.

Armor doctrine riflemen:

also what if i wanna spam rifles all game then wtf suprise them with pershing spam at the end, THESE SKINS WILL TROLL ME.

[TheVolskinator]

"M4 Crocodile Napalm Trailer".

Uses the cart commonly seen next to HQs in VCoH that has a power generator on it.

Cost: 100 MP, 20 MU, 50 FU, anywhere from 0-6 Pool.
HP: Anywhere from 100-200.
Armor Type: Greyhound or Stuart.
Weapons: N/A.
Speed, Accel, Decel: Matches the M4 Crocodile Sherman perfectly.
Upgrades: N/A.
Abilities: "Maintain Command Range" - Fuel Trailer will follow the targeted M4 Crocodile; ability would have an edited range that would keep it "hooked" to the crododile. This might give a good illusion of it being an actual trailer and remove the issue of editing the Croc model.
"Command Aura" - Targeted Crocodile that the specific trailer is following will have +5 range and vastly improved crits. Anywhere the croc fires its flamethrower will also burn, similar to PE indindiary grenades. Aura will not stack from multiple trailers, and they do NOT grant any bonus to any other unit.
The trailer will explode and leave a burning crater similar to the blitz stuka off-map in its wake after being destroyed. Will heavily damage the Crocodile it's following if destroyed.
Sight: 0.
Detection: 0.
Other: Crocodile would have its price dropped by 100 MP and 50 FU; at the moment its honestly useless, agreed? Its never really used and this might turn things around for ye olde croc. The pros to the idea are, of course, sherman crocs being used finally and being effective. Cons are that, well, I threw this out without thinking for a week and that the mod really doesnt need this right now; this is something for far in the future. This could also be easily abused; depending on how much pop the trailer takes up, if its low enough can you imagine a mass start of just trailers from panda? Sure they dont shoot, but your AT will. Bewm to anything on legs or any support weapons he parks next to (not to mention how silly itd look to have carts moving themselves).

Is it probably a stupid idea? Yes. Do I expect it to be taken seriously? Not really. But its something thats not directly OP ^^.