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« Reply #60 on: January 12, 2012, 06:07:51 pm » |
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you also really want to have the MG on them as well, the extra penetration they get help whittle down the marder as well.
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« Reply #61 on: January 13, 2012, 08:37:28 am » |
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you also really want to have the MG on them as well, the extra penetration they get help whittle down the marder as well.
It becomes a serous clowncar killer, too. |
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« Reply #62 on: January 13, 2012, 09:52:44 am » |
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Be careful when killing clown cars using a Greyhound. If it's a Shreck clown car then make sure you have distance when you make the kill shot.
Crews come out of vehicles with a fresh reload - Those Shreckers will be in green cover and ready to fire. Taking the shot at around medium range means you can dart right out of their firing line if Shrecks pop out.
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« Reply #63 on: January 13, 2012, 09:54:09 am » |
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they also get a fresh reload when you kill a man and the weapon changes hand
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« Reply #64 on: January 13, 2012, 01:22:32 pm » |
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Yip. It's why it's best to push around the guy with the AT weapon in a squad but crush him last when attempting to gum up your treads with an enemy squad. Not always possible, but it's the best outcome you can get.
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« Reply #65 on: January 13, 2012, 03:27:31 pm » |
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Im pretty sure it was you that had the 2 squads of tb's shoot out of the clown car and under your sherman. Funniest kills i have ever seen.
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« Reply #66 on: January 13, 2012, 03:53:22 pm » |
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Rare, but epic lulz when it happens.
Epic lulz to the degree of watching 440 munitions crunch under your treads instantly.
It'll only work with crush-enabled vehicles though, 'tis best to keep safe distance with light armour until you can confirm the contents of the clown car.
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« Reply #67 on: January 13, 2012, 11:37:28 pm » |
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Rare, but epic lulz when it happens.
Epic lulz to the degree of watching 440 munitions crunch under your treads instantly.
It'll only work with crush-enabled vehicles though, 'tis best to keep safe distance with light armour until you can confirm the contents of the clown car.
rare? what no? cromwell flankspeed achieves it time and time over with me |
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« Reply #68 on: January 14, 2012, 12:46:13 am » |
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rare? what no?
cromwell flankspeed achieves it time and time over with me
Not the same way, when the car dies it has to unload directly in the patch of the tank. Most of the time it unloads the infantry to the right or the left. Flank speed doesn't really affect that part of it. |
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« Reply #69 on: January 14, 2012, 01:42:34 am » |
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skaffa lost Tiger ace to 75mm sherman,it probably even didnt have HVAP. Seems that normal sherman is quite capable to deal with shit on field.
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« Reply #70 on: January 14, 2012, 04:40:47 am » |
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Yeah because getting the finishing shot(!) with a lucky penetration makes shermans consistently good against tigers
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« Reply #71 on: January 14, 2012, 04:51:05 am » |
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skaffa lost Tiger ace to 75mm sherman,it probably even didnt have HVAP. Seems that normal sherman is quite capable to deal with shit on field.
why dont u stop posting such things (bullshit)? tiger ace beats the 75mm sherman in 1v1 in every case! ur comment is soooo irrelevant |
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« Reply #72 on: January 14, 2012, 05:12:33 am » |
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why dont u stop posting such things (bullshit)? tiger ace beats the 75mm sherman in 1v1 in every case!
ur comment is soooo irrelevant
Du hast nicht verstanden was er sagen wollte. Er wollte mit seinen Kommentar ausdrücken das es mit HVAP überhaupt möglich ist einen Tiger ernsthaft zu penetrieren womit man dann zum "Finishingmove" ansätzen kann, wenn dieser mit eingeklemmten Eiern nach Hause gurkt. Sein Kommentar hat aber dennoch zwei Haken: 1.Ein Sherman mit der 75mm und HVAP T4 bekommt keinen HVAP Bonus da es für diese Konstellation keine andere Kanone im spiel gibt. (Wenn ich mich hier nicht vertue) 2.Einen geschändeten Tiger würde ich lieber mit einen M10 jagen, denn mir ist es einmal passiert das alle Schüsse gebounced sind und er mir entkommen ist. |
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« Reply #73 on: January 14, 2012, 05:16:13 am » |
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Du hast nicht verstanden was er sagen wollte. Er wollte mit seinen Kommentar ausdrücken das es mit HVAP überhaupt möglich ist
einen Tiger ernsthaft zu penetrieren womit man dann zum "Finishingmove" ansätzen kann, wenn dieser mit eingeklemmten Eiern nach
Hause gurkt. Sein Kommentar hat aber dennoch zwei Haken:
1.Ein Sherman mit der 75mm und HVAP T4 bekommt keinen HVAP Bonus da es für diese Konstellation keine andere Kanone im spiel gibt.
(Wenn ich mich hier nicht vertue)
aus dem Grund ist es ja unnötig! oder bin ich da echt auf dem falschen Dampfer? 75 mm sherman hat keine hvap und es hätte gereicht zu sagen, das ein 75 mm sherman einen tiger durchdringen kann! aber das wiederum macht wieder im kontext keinen Sinn, da es doch um was anderes geht, undzwar meint er, das der sherman eine echte größe im kampf gegen einen tiger ist. Das stimmt jedoch einfach nicht! |
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« Reply #74 on: January 14, 2012, 05:21:48 am » |
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Natürlich hast du an sich Recht, aber das kann man auch anders ausdrücken. Das "consistently good" habe ich wohl verlesen, das stimmt vorne
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« Reply #75 on: January 14, 2012, 05:33:26 am » |
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1.Ein Sherman mit der 75mm und HVAP T4 bekommt keinen HVAP Bonus da es für diese Konstellation keine andere Kanone im spiel gibt.
(Wenn ich mich hier nicht vertue)
Sehr gut das hier mal einer (und das als Neuling) lernt die RGDs zu lesen, wohingegen die ganzen Lutscher hier es nach Jahren noch nicht können/versucht haben. Du liegst da natürlich richtig, HVAP wird über ein Wechsel der Kanone an "hardpoint_xyz" realisiert. Der Grund hierfür ergibt sich dadurch das man Schadensmodifikatoren ausschliesslich gegen Panzer haben möchte. Wenn man einfach den Basisschaden generell über ein Doktr.-Attribut per Modifier erhöhen würde, dann würden die Dinger auch deutlich besser gegen Inf.,leichte Fahrzeuge etc. 2.Einen geschändeten Tiger würde ich lieber mit einen M10 jagen, denn mir ist es einmal passiert das alle Schüsse gebounced sind und er mir
entkommen ist.
Genau, mit Infantrie-Unterstützungspanzern attackiert man eigentlich nie schweres Gerät, ausser um den letzten Schuss für den Abschuss zu erzielen. Letzteres schlägt aber auch häufig fehl und man ärgert sich. |
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« Reply #76 on: January 14, 2012, 05:34:49 am » |
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Could we please post in english? If you want to discuss in German, use pms.
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« Reply #77 on: January 14, 2012, 05:36:16 am » |
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sry man, i thought it would be easier to answer ahnungsloser in german then to translate what he said and then to go on
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« Reply #78 on: January 14, 2012, 05:41:59 am » |
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« Reply #79 on: January 14, 2012, 05:55:19 am » |
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In short:
- Just saying "Your comment is irrelvant" is not good because we can discuss the wrong content of a post. (like we did)
- A Sherman which has no Upgun gets no HVAP bonus, because there is no gun implement which carries this doctrin bonus.
- It's not clever to hunt down a trapped tiger with a infantry support tank like the Sherman. An ATG or a Tank Destroyer makes the deal.
In one situation a wanted to hunt down a totally damaged tiger with a sherman, and i got totally unlucky and none of the shots which hits
the tiger penetrates hit and bounces just off the armor.
- Only why a Upgunned Sherman can penetrate a tiger sometimes, it's doesn't change his role from a infantry support tank to
a hardcounter against a tiger. That's not the truth.
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