Home
Forum
Search
Login
Register
Account
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
Did you miss your
activation email?
November 09, 2024, 10:31:13 am
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
Resources
Leaderboards
Unit Price Lists
Map List
Launcher status:
Players in chat: 4
Battles in progress: 1
Battles waiting: 0
Download the mod from Steam
Join our Discord server
Recent posts
Please don’t open this th...
by
Olazaika1
[November 01, 2024, 12:46:37 pm]
Required age ratings for ...
by
Unkn0wn
[October 05, 2024, 07:29:20 am]
50 minutes cap victory
by
Olazaika1
[September 05, 2024, 01:54:13 pm]
Feedback
by
Olazaika1
[July 16, 2024, 11:30:34 pm]
Anyone here still alive?
by
Olazaika1
[June 22, 2024, 06:49:40 am]
very glad to be signing u...
by
Olazaika1
[March 08, 2024, 12:13:38 am]
EiR:R ACA (Art Credits Ar...
by
Olazaika1
[March 08, 2024, 12:12:54 am]
Hello, New guy in the mod
by
Olazaika1
[March 08, 2024, 12:09:37 am]
CoH 3 Old Guard
by
chefarzt
[December 30, 2023, 08:00:58 pm]
KT got buffs, Rug stop hi...
by
LittleJoe
[February 04, 2023, 11:46:41 am]
Awards
2007
Mod of the Year
Editor's Choice
2008
Most Innovative Multiplayer
Nominee
Want to help promote Europe In Ruins? It's as easy as clicking here once a day!
Why?
COH: Europe In Ruins
>
Forum
>
EIR Main Forums
>
Balance & Design
>
Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
Pages: [
1
]
2
3
...
6
Go Down
Print
Author
Topic: Mainline Infantry Balance Thread (Read 26566 times)
0 Members and 6 Guests are viewing this topic.
Tymathee
Donator
Posts: 9741
Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
«
on:
August 21, 2012, 02:29:37 pm »
So, since the PzGren thread was closed, let's continue it here.
Mainline infantry are infantry you can use without doc unlock.
Please keep discussion to undoc'd units, save doc ability balance for another thread, this is only for the units themselvs + upgrades.
KCH, Assault Grens and Tank busters are excluded
(unless u want to talk about moving them into upgrades for Panzer Grenadiers)
US - Rifles
CW - Tommy's (and US Hat Infantry)
WM - Volksgrenadiers, Grenadiers, KCH
PE - Panzergrenadiers
Logged
Quote from: nikomas on October 04, 2012, 09:26:33 pm
"I want proof!"
"I have proof!"
"Whatever, I'm still right"
Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
SophiaT1991
EIR Veteran
Posts: 159
Re: Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
«
Reply #1 on:
August 21, 2012, 02:46:10 pm »
Mainline inf is fine until doc buffs get involved.
Logged
Spartan_Marine88
EIR Veteran
Posts: 4838
Re: Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
«
Reply #2 on:
August 21, 2012, 03:15:28 pm »
Quote from: Tymathee on August 21, 2012, 02:29:37 pm
So, since the PzGren thread was closed, let's continue it here.
Yes, lets continue a closed thread because that won't just get closed too.
genius.jpg
Logged
Quote from: Sachaztan on March 24, 2013, 03:49:43 pm
Yes that's me, the special snowflake.
hans
EIR Veteran
Posts: 3497
Re: Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
«
Reply #3 on:
August 21, 2012, 03:38:58 pm »
rifles are dying like flies against any axis mainline infantry. am i right??
Logged
Quote from: brn4meplz on May 06, 2013, 01:52:31 pm
Also, bad analogy ground, My vegetables never pissed on my ego when I decided they defeated me and gave up on dessert.
EIRRMod
Administrator / Lead Developer
Posts: 11009
Re: Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
«
Reply #4 on:
August 21, 2012, 03:41:29 pm »
Quote from: Spartan_Marine88 on August 21, 2012, 03:15:28 pm
Yes, lets continue a closed thread because that won't just get closed too.
genius.jpg
Erm it was closed by me... cos uhm.... I derailed it...
Back to topic at hand!
Logged
Quote from: brn4meplz
Shit I'm pretty sure you could offer the guy a cup of coffee and he'd try to kill you with the mug if you forgot sugar.
Quote from: tank130
That's like offering Beer to fuck the fat chick. It will work for a while, but it's not gonna last. Not only that, but there is zero motivation for the Fat chick to loose weight.
Quote from: tank130
Why don't you collect up your love beads and potpourri and find something constructive to do.
TheVolskinator
Administrator / Lead Developer
Posts: 3012
Re: Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
«
Reply #5 on:
August 21, 2012, 03:50:55 pm »
Rifles are actually golden when they get decent doctrine buffs + vet. And you can have a shit metric ton of them. The only imbalance that I can think of is Rifles/Rangers vs. PGs.
Logged
Quote from: tank130
I want to ensure we have a 100% decision on the process before we do the wipe.
If not, then I wipe, then someone gets something they shouldn't, then it gets abused, then the shit hits the fan and then I ban shab.
Getting EiR:R Released on Steam
Forum Rules & Guidelines
hans
EIR Veteran
Posts: 3497
Re: Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
«
Reply #6 on:
August 21, 2012, 04:47:58 pm »
oh sry, read mainline infantry without doc buffs.
...
my fault, with doc buffs even rofles do decent, agreed
Logged
RikiRude
Donator
Posts: 4376
Re: Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
«
Reply #7 on:
August 21, 2012, 07:39:15 pm »
I think the problem lies here.
US could use some main line infantry comparable to grens.
Brits have the problem that their tommies are god awful unless you have a LT or have them upgraded. but it's pretty lame that for your tommies to be anything useful you need to have extra micro with the LT.
WM is fine, with all the choices and upgrades between volks, grens, KCH, they are set.
Don't play PE, but PGs dont seem all that great.
Logged
Quote from: Killer344
Killer344: "Repent: sory no joke i just had savage diorea"
Quote from: Malgoroth on October 10, 2011, 05:03:49 pm
... or a fat ass cock sucking churchill being stupid
AmPM
Community Mapper
Posts: 7978
Re: Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
«
Reply #8 on:
August 21, 2012, 07:43:08 pm »
Quote from: RikiRude on August 21, 2012, 07:39:15 pm
I think the problem lies here.
US could use some main line infantry comparable to grens.
Brits have the problem that their tommies are god awful unless you have a LT or have them upgraded. but it's pretty lame that for your tommies to be anything useful you need to have extra micro with the LT.
WM is fine, with all the choices and upgrades between volks, grens, KCH, they are set.
Don't play PE, but PGs dont seem all that great.
There is no balance issue other than PG tbh.
Riflemen are fantastic, cheap, effective, flexible.
Volks are the same.
Grens are alright, but they cost a lot more to equip.
Tommies are good, nice and tough, cheap effective upgrades and officers.
PG just lack in the punch department...
Logged
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Tymathee
Donator
Posts: 9741
Re: Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
«
Reply #9 on:
August 21, 2012, 07:58:49 pm »
i think another issue is that pzgrens were made to be spammable and super multi purpose and eir takes both of those away by making them 5 pop and they can't repair or have inherent build ability.
Logged
Demon767
Warmap Betatester
EIR Veteran
Posts: 6190
Re: Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
«
Reply #10 on:
August 21, 2012, 08:06:25 pm »
Quote from: Tymathee on August 21, 2012, 07:58:49 pm
i think another issue is that pzgrens were made to be spammable and super multi purpose and eir takes both of those away by making them 5 pop and they can't repair or have inherent build ability.
+1
Logged
Generalleutnant of The Reichs Wolves
Nevergetsputonlistguy767
RikiRude
Donator
Posts: 4376
Re: Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
«
Reply #11 on:
August 21, 2012, 08:06:56 pm »
would be interesting to lower their pop to 3, make them 3 man squads, but give them a nerfed group zeal. make them about 130mp.
that way if you have 2 squads together it would be like having a 6 man gren squad.
make it so the group zeal caps at 3 squads. this would make them more like their coh style.
or it could be a horrible idea, but i thought it would be interesting.
Logged
AmPM
Community Mapper
Posts: 7978
Re: Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
«
Reply #12 on:
August 21, 2012, 08:31:33 pm »
Or, 4 man squads for 4 pop...
Logged
8thRifleRegiment
EIR Veteran
Posts: 2210
Re: Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
«
Reply #13 on:
August 21, 2012, 08:36:43 pm »
i think the secret to all of this is,
Dont play PE, anything you get on PE you can get on wehr but better, without all the loldisadvantages versus the simplest of counters
Logged
I will never forget the rage we enduced together
Quote from: brn4meplz on March 08, 2013, 12:46:54 pm
Ohh Good, AmPm can pay in Doubloons.
Tymathee
Donator
Posts: 9741
Re: Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
«
Reply #14 on:
August 21, 2012, 09:11:45 pm »
Quote from: AmPM on August 21, 2012, 08:31:33 pm
Or, 4 man squads for 4 pop...
you mean back to how they were when i thought it was a dumb change in the first place? great idea!
Logged
aeroblade56
Development
Posts: 3871
Re: Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
«
Reply #15 on:
August 21, 2012, 11:14:37 pm »
I decided not to offer my expert balance opinion
«
Last Edit: August 22, 2012, 09:33:49 am by aeroblade56
»
Logged
Quote from: Hicks58 on January 08, 2016, 05:47:37 pm
You are welcome to your opinion.
You are also welcome to be wrong.
smurfORnot
EIR Veteran
Posts: 4715
Re: Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
«
Reply #16 on:
August 22, 2012, 01:12:40 am »
so vs us infantry and brits,both squad with no upgrades how will pgrens fare? Will they loose every time or can they win?
Logged
Smokaz
Honoured Member
Posts: 11418
Re: Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
«
Reply #17 on:
August 22, 2012, 01:43:51 am »
Only tommies and pgs need to be looked at
Logged
SlippedHerTheBigOne: big penis puma
SlippedHerTheBigOne: and i have no repairkits
SlippedHerTheBigOne: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
aeroblade56
Development
Posts: 3871
Re: Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
«
Reply #18 on:
August 22, 2012, 09:37:35 am »
Tommies, the ultimate recrew squads. cant do fuck all without a LT which is a piece of paper that gets raped by pumas haha.
Logged
Tymathee
Donator
Posts: 9741
Re: Mainline Infantry Balance Thread
«
Reply #19 on:
August 22, 2012, 10:02:33 am »
make lt buff scatter as well so it affects rifle nades and piats.
Logged
Pages: [
1
]
2
3
...
6
Go Up
Print
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
News & Introductions
-----------------------------
=> Updates & Announcements
=> EIR Boot Camp
===> In Other Languages
=====> In Chinese
=====> In German
=====> In Spanish
=====> In Polish
=====> In French
=====> In Norwegian
=> New Players
-----------------------------
EIR Main Forums
-----------------------------
=> General Discussion
=> Tactics & Strategy
=> Balance & Design
=> Broadcasts & Replays
=> Projects & Mapping
=> Technical Support
===> Bug Reporting
-----------------------------
General Forums
-----------------------------
=> General Discussion
=> Other Games
TinyPortal v1.0 beta 4 ©
Bloc
Loading...