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[XIIcorps]

i only noted that this could be an issue, i didnt state that it was a fail point.

but on the roads issue, do all spawns have one now ? 

[tank130]

i only noted that this could be an issue, i didnt state that it was a fail point.

but on the roads issue, do all spawns have one now ? 

Neuville has two roads.......

but two spawns on one road

[hans]

okay updated pictures at the first page.

Changes:

- all spawns have roads now
- added hedgerows in the centre, reduced the open fire fields in the centre, too
- shaped the sectors more to the terrain
- fixed some pathing issues

[Hicks58]

Looking good Hans.

I'll see about giving it another playtest later today if I catch ya.

[deadbolt]

looks good, remember to leave some gaps or breaks in fences so its easier to flank and get to positions than taking the long ass route. it also has an essence of bastion about it, good job gooby.

[hans]

unfortunately relic fucked up pathing with all these stone walls. They have to be removed and exchanged with hedgerows and other blockers. Some gaps in the fences have to be added. And the archways have to be fixed, expecially in the south.

lets see ...

[deadbolt]

you can use the shotblocker tool, will create impassable area and shotblockin so the walls will be there and stuff wont just phase through it

[tank130]

Temporary installation - requires weather options.

[hans]

Temporary installation - requires weather options.

are u fucking kidding me?

okay 1: has neuville any weather option? and i guess some more maps that are already updated dont have them

okay 2: do u see ANY game where ANYONE changes the FUCKING weather options? maybe to rain and storm or to night or whatever?

okay 3: i guess for best gameplay a good weather is correct. DONT u FUCKING love SUMMER?

i feel like getting personally attacked srsly, if u dont want that map, SAY IT. FUCK MAN.

[tank130]

i feel like getting personally attacked srsly, if u dont want that map, SAY IT. FUCK MAN.

It is very unfortunate you feel personally attack. That is not our intention AT ALL.

Please read this post:
http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=24526.msg449704#msg449704

Please also read the requirements HERE

It is exactly what has been requested of Elitegren, Pony, Gork, and tank130. This is not anything personal against you, so slow down a little with the rage.

[hans]

It is very unfortunate you feel personally attack. That is not our intention AT ALL.

Please read this post:
http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=24526.msg449704#msg449704

Please also read the requirements HERE

It is exactly what has been requested of Elitegren, Pony, Gork, and tank130. This is not anything personal against you, so slow down a little with the rage.

jup fine, if u like weather options that no one uses, u may add them for me. I dont care if u takw night dawn rain storm or anything else. If not maybe deadbolt or any other guy wants to add weather options to this map. I cant right now.

[tank130]

Not sure why the fat lonely kid attitude you are sporting today....... (deadbolt - you must resist the urge to post the pic.....back away from the computer)

If you do not want your map added, that's up to you. We are asking nothing more of you then we ask of anyone bringing in maps. How you get it done is up to you as well.

I have taken on the job of map lead to help out loading maps and tutorials. I am not here to complete your maps.

[hans]

anyone up there adding weather options to this map?

i gonna add credits for u guys.

NEED YA HELP!

[deadbolt]

Not sure why the fat lonely kid attitude you are sporting today....... (deadbolt - you must resist the urge to post the pic.....back away from the computer)

my work here is done!

now i have to go outside, fml

tankedit: unrelated pics removed
I know it is deserving, but if I don't remove it the other children will cry foul.

[hans]

anyone up there adding weather options to this map?

i gonna add credits for u guys.

NEED YA HELP!

anyone?

[skaffa]

Review:

(Im aware those pics might be outdated)

Looking at the pics in OP it seems there is too much stuff lying around.
Imagine yourself moving 25 popcap thru those areas in a orderly fashion. You cant really. Too many obstacles to go around. These might look nice to you but serve no purpose. Good balance between infantry cover and enough space for vehicles to move around is vital. Looking at the pic of the town I would say remove atleast 50% of the ammo boxes, clothing, wooden crates etc.

I would keep the roads going from spawn to middle to a minimum. Max 3 (1 per player). Or in this case max 2 as 2 players spawn on the same road.
Remove (imo) the 4 roads coming into the map from the 4 corners.
Remove (imo) the tiny roads leading from spawn 3 and 6 towards middle.
I would remove these because these roads serve no real purpose but they will have an effect on gameplay as they are red cover areas no1 likes to be on. Because of this roads act as barriers.

I would also remove the 2 roads these tiny curv roads connect too (at either side of the city, spawnside). I mean the entire road alongside the city going from left to right. So in between spawns 1+2 and 3 (& 4+5 and 6).
They are best removed (imo) so when you have to defend around those houses you are not forced to have units on red cover.

In the areas which are not really meant for fighting, but more for moving around, I would keep the obstacles to a minimum.
These areas are between the spawns and the start of the city. And the sides.
These areas are pretty much only used ingame to move your troops around. Having lots of trees might look nice but all it accomplishes is create pathing issues.
For example page 2, 2nd pic. Imagine you moving your 25-30 popcap army thru that area.
The debris of the planes, random tanktraps and the trees all block your vehicles. When placing these make sure you put them to the side so you keep a lane open where vehicles can move thru swiftly. Having them randomly placed forces the vehicles to make turns all the time instead of going in a straight line.

Page 1, 3rd pic: This is the assembly area for players to gather their forces and move into the city. You want this to be as open as possible, so 25 popcap can move around freely. All the trees will provide extra blockers and pathing issues. Basically there is way too much stuff everywhere. I would remove 80% of the stuff I see (including trees).

The middle area, the city, looks quite compact. Imagine how you would fight in there. Its not very open which makes a 25 popcap proper formation attack very hard. It looks to favor mortars more.
I would open up the middle a bit more. As mentioned less obstacles, but less hedgerows so the gaps become a bit more open and possibly removing the water. The water pretty much means you dont want to go in that area and put your units there.
Instead put a few (what I like to do) white walls around the houses. This provides heavy cover, meaning you can fight inf in buildings when standing behind the wall or even MGs.

To prevent flak domination on the sides you can try some thick hedgerows. For example along side the roads on the sides. Not too many, 1 or perhaps 2 on each side.

Overal I like the layout. City in middle, open on the sides!