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Mister Schmidt Offline
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« Reply #120 on: May 02, 2012, 08:10:56 am »

Nothing wrong with that, use Pershing to draw fire, atg drops the 88 in a few shots, simples
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« Reply #121 on: May 02, 2012, 08:27:47 am »

Nothing wrong with that, use Pershing to draw fire, atg drops the 88 in a few shots, simples

exactly, that's what I used to do. Draw 88 fire with tank, kill with atg. Now you can only kill it with infantry, mortars, or artillery. ATG's are totally out of the question.
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« Reply #122 on: May 02, 2012, 08:44:13 am »

oh noessss....I can't counter your big, unmovable anti tank gun with my much smaller, mobile, and cheaper anti tank gun.......


WTF... the horrors of imbalance.......



/sarcasm

 
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Mister Schmidt Offline
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« Reply #123 on: May 02, 2012, 08:47:52 am »

just lol
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Tymathee Offline
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« Reply #124 on: May 02, 2012, 08:52:18 am »

oh noessss....I can't counter your big, unmovable anti tank gun with my much smaller, mobile, and cheaper anti tank gun.......


WTF... the horrors of imbalance.......



/sarcasm

 

its not a big deal to me tbh just i dunno. there are others ways, i'll just save my atgs then!

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Hicks58 Offline
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« Reply #125 on: May 02, 2012, 08:53:39 am »

exactly, that's what I used to do. Draw 88 fire with tank, kill with atg. Now you can only kill it with infantry, mortars, or artillery. ATG's are totally out of the question.

Three solid options to take it out of play, and a fourth option to avoid the bugger.

Is that not enough?
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« Reply #126 on: May 02, 2012, 08:56:03 am »

no, of course it isn't! what if I lose my mortar to the 88...what? 88 acc was nerfed against support weapons...ok, okay what if it snipes my inf....oh acc was nerfed there too.

Hmm. Okay I give up.
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« Reply #127 on: May 02, 2012, 08:59:55 am »

the thing is the 88 got nerfed vs atgs with an accuracy multiplier, which is rather random. while a damage modifier( or all modifiers at 1, like it was before) is not random.
so at the moment, sometimes 88s will beat atgs and sometimes atgs will beat 88s. but on average it should stay the same as it was.

the only thing smokaz single scenario proves is that pershings have a dmg modifier vs 88s.

exactly, that's what I used to do. Draw 88 fire with tank, kill with atg. Now you can only kill it with infantry, mortars, or artillery. ATG's are totally out of the question.
they are not totally out of the question, compare the modifiers that were added. atgs got nerfed vs 88s by the same amount 88s got nerfed vs atgs.

however, a much more important thing someone else pointed out: if the enemy has an ostwind or armored car defending their 88 you are not completely fucked over now because the ATG can creep up and take shots at it because it no longer gets instagibbed by the 88
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« Reply #128 on: May 02, 2012, 09:36:51 am »

any AB fixes gonna be soon?

Real men use AB at its weakest and still win SHAB!
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« Reply #129 on: May 02, 2012, 09:52:13 am »

however, a much more important thing someone else pointed out: if the enemy has an ostwind or armored car defending their 88 you are not completely fucked over now because the ATG can creep up and take shots at it because it no longer gets instagibbed by the 88

Leo agreeing with me in public?

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« Reply #130 on: May 02, 2012, 01:06:33 pm »

Leo agreeing with me in public?

I dare say pigs have taken flight too.


now, now Hicks..... no need to provoke...
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« Reply #131 on: May 02, 2012, 01:54:31 pm »

the thing is the 88 got nerfed vs atgs with an accuracy multiplier, which is rather random. while a damage modifier( or all modifiers at 1, like it was before) is not random.
so at the moment, sometimes 88s will beat atgs and sometimes atgs will beat 88s. but on average it should stay the same as it was.

the only thing smokaz single scenario proves is that pershings have a dmg modifier vs 88s.
they are not totally out of the question, compare the modifiers that were added. atgs got nerfed vs 88s by the same amount 88s got nerfed vs atgs.

however, a much more important thing someone else pointed out: if the enemy has an ostwind or armored car defending their 88 you are not completely fucked over now because the ATG can creep up and take shots at it because it no longer gets instagibbed by the 88

true true, i have had that issue and i love the fact that my mortars and hmgs wont be instantly gibbed either
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« Reply #132 on: May 02, 2012, 02:20:01 pm »

oh noessss....I can't counter your big, unmovable anti tank gun with my much smaller, mobile, and cheaper anti tank gun.......


WTF... the horrors of imbalance.......



/sarcasm

 

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« Reply #133 on: May 05, 2012, 02:59:41 am »

General:

- Sticky bomb uses from 3 to 2

So explain to me how a doctrinal with vet can get 4 Panzerfaust?. Yet Stickies get 2 uses even with vet 3.

So faust can get engine crits, have longer range and pretty much always penetrate(jumbo,pershing aside)
and are cheaper you get 4 of them.

But you can only get 2 stickies, which are only good at vet 2, that have short range that cost 60 munitions. and that yes they have a 70% chance to deal engine crit but still bounce of panthers often. this doesnt really make sense. with the current increase with the TD this makes even less sense. I would like to know What the mainr eason is behind this other then To many stickies.
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« Reply #134 on: May 05, 2012, 03:35:46 am »

lol aero, comparing a doctrine buffed ability to a default ability.
way to go.

also, stickies got buffed this patch, not nerfed
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« Reply #135 on: May 05, 2012, 03:39:04 am »

So explain to me how a doctrinal with vet can get 4 Panzerfaust?. Yet Stickies get 2 uses even with vet 3.

So faust can get engine crits, have longer range and pretty much always penetrate(jumbo,pershing aside)
and are cheaper you get 4 of them.

But you can only get 2 stickies, which are only good at vet 2, that have short range that cost 60 munitions. and that yes they have a 70% chance to deal engine crit but still bounce of panthers often. this doesnt really make sense. with the current increase with the TD this makes even less sense. I would like to know What the mainr eason is behind this other then To many stickies.

but but but.... i got nothing.
m18s rose from like 180 to 230 fu in 2 patches and m10/m18 can no longer hit 1 infantry after like 4 tries (wow such a great AI tank). While panther keeps on trucking and pwning with amazing frontal armor, long range, and amazing accuracy.
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hans Offline
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« Reply #136 on: May 05, 2012, 03:59:32 am »

m18s ... no longer hit 1 infantry after like 4 tries (wow such a great AI tank).

eh
eh
hellO???

m18=AI tank???

HELLOOOOO!?!?!?!


okay, no, m18 is not a fucking AI tank poppi
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« Reply #137 on: May 05, 2012, 05:22:34 am »


okay, no m18 is not a AI tank poppi


Maybe the .50cal is confusing him
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aeroblade56 Offline
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« Reply #138 on: May 05, 2012, 10:59:10 pm »

No one going to asnwer my question?. oke doke.
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pqumsieh Offline
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« Reply #139 on: May 06, 2012, 12:03:07 am »

since you don't lose a use when the vehicle you are trying to stick goes out of range, you don't need that extra sticky anymore.
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